On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 03:03:14PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 01:50:32PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > I know it's a feature that power users value, but I think the technical > > rationale for removing the option was valid, and still applies today. I > > think a precondition for reintroducing the option to the menu should be to > > resolve the reliability problems that led to its removal in the first place > > (including the problem of systems having insufficient swap allocation), and > > to get the buy-in from the kernel team (cc:ed) that it will be supportable > > in the future.
> I still don't see the sense in hiding a feature because it's buggy. How > else should we expect it to get fixed? The buggy behavior was exposed for quite some time and was not fixed. I don't see that continuing to expose users to the bugs by default significantly improves the chances of these bugs being fixed. To turn the question around: how does not having hibernate currently exposed prevent anyone from fixing the underlying bugs so that we could consider re-enabling it? > How about supporting the failure condition better? Add a dialog with > instructions/warnings? At the very least the option should be able to be > added back with a setting an adventurous user can set. I'm comfortable with the idea of this being a hidden toggle that the adventurous user can opt in to. I don't think it should be something in the UI unless someone is going to commit to making the experience more robust. Having a dialog pop up when you click the hibernate button - or when you close the lid expecting the machine to hibernate! - is cold comfort when the hibernation failure causes your machine to overheat in the bag, for instance. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org
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