Here's the archive.org history. I'm honestly not certain what to make of it

https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://spideroak.com/canary



On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) <
lop...@nedharvey.com> wrote:

> For anyone who doesn't know, a warrant canary is when a company like
> Dropbox, etc, publishes their Transparency Report, indicating the number of
> times they've been subpoenaed for users' private information, and the
> number of times they've handed it over. If you publish statistics
> periodically saying "Zero national security letters" and then you stop
> saying that one day, people may infer what they will. It is based on the
> (untested) belief that while the government may demand you say nothing
> about a particular request, they cannot compel you to lie about it.
>
>
>
> There are lots of ways for it to break down - most notably - If the
> consequence of admitting you handed over information to the government were
> the destruction of your reputation as a security company and destruction of
> your business... How many business owners could find it in their hearts to
> just tell one eensy weensy little lie? Probably a lot.
>
>
>
> But that's not what I'm here to ask you all about.
>
>
>
> Supposedly, this is SpiderOak's canary:
>
> https://spideroak.com/canary
>
>
>
> Unlike everyone else' canary, which explicitly give you statistics
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/transparency
>
> https://blog.protonmail.ch/transparency-report/
>
> https://canary.silentcircle.com/
>
>
>
> Spideroak's canary doesn't seem to say anything. This what I'm asking you
> about: Are you able to read/interpret this differently from me? Am I
> missing something?
>
>
>
> I see "Everything's going smoothly so far" and I see a headline from New
> York Times, to validate the date, and PGP signatures. But "Everything's
> going smoothly so far" is meaningless. This is not a canary - or it's a
> dead canary.
>
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