Robert Elz wrote in <8853.1660590...@jacaranda.noi.kre.to>: | Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 10:45:59 -0400 | From: Jan Schaumann <jscha...@netmeister.org> | Message-ID: <20220815144559.go11...@netmeister.org> | || I think it's short-sighted and unfair to equate lack || of experience with idiocy. | |Then why did you jump to that conclusion? That is neither |what I said, nor what I meant. | |There is no problem with inexperienced users, who are capable |enough to know they are inexperienced (which of itself says |very little) and who are willing to learn, and to recognise |that learning means work. | |The best way for such users to become experienced, is by doing |things, and that should start with the small things, of course, |for which solutions can fairly easily be discovered. | |So, for example if the shell were to not start with line editing |enabled (to borrow from one of the recent issues) a moron user |with complain about how useless it is, and moan a lot, and that's |about it. A user who is merely inexperienced will wonder why |that is, and perhaps decide to have a look in the documentation for |the shell, which will tell them that "set -E" (or set -o emacs) or |set -V (or set -o vi) will enable it. Then they'd try that, and |discover that it does work. Next would be how to make that happen |automatically, so back to the man page to learn about the startup |scripts that the shell runs.
And the golden path is enabling. Yeah, do not make turtle soup, let the turtles do smalltalk. I just did --- a/home/.shrc +++ b/home/.shrc @@ -99,6 +99,7 @@ eval "___isinc=\$___SHRC$$" shopt -s expand_aliases elif [ "${OSTYPE}" = netbsd ]; then set -o cdprint -o emacs -o tabcomplete + (set -o promptcmds) >/dev/null 2>&1 && set -o promptcmds fi export HISTSIZE HISTFILE last saturday after creating my NetBSD 9.3 VM, because i was given a hand. (Iirc: again, and again, and again...-) P.S.: i want to add i was sitting and saying your first two sentences this afternoon (in German). Thanks, and Ciao from Germany. (That unfortunately sends lots of military planes to your home country.) --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)