Hmmm...I wish I could say more, but prefering to make mysterious and unsubstantiated statements, I would say that my own personal opinion is that Gavin might not be quite as down on tapestrys component model as the interview may make it seem..
Either way, I love hibernate and feel it's probably one of the largest reasons why I'm liking ejb 3.0(somewhat, mostly still just like hibernate), whereas have been known from time to time to almost despise ejb 2.0. That being said, I still think tapestry has obviously got the right picture. We've even been discovering in dojo that having embedded markup (sort of like what jsf does in some ways) in widgets sometimes makes them cumbersome and hard to extend...It's already being fixed where appropriate of course...CSS is just one tiny part of the equation. But, that's just all of the old web tech leader type people thinking (boring engineer people coming from yahoo/ibm/google/aol/etc...), I'm sure the JSF group knows what's best for web development ;) jesse On 2/17/06, Chris Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with Gavin's sentiment that, in general, you want to do your > presentation work in CSS. However, in order for that to be effective, you > really need to have good mark-up to style. > > The edge that I think Tapestry has here is that it makes it easy for me to > produce the mark-up, rather than relying on the > knowledge/experience/tastes > of the JSF component developer. In order for me to have control over the > mark-up in JSF, I have to write my own components - which seems > unnecessarily complex for what should be a reasonably simple task. > > Chris > > PS - I'd also recommend the Javaposse podcasts, as they cover some good > material. For those that have not listened, it's probably worth stating > up-front that the presenters all met each other through developing/using > Sun's Creator product, so there does tend to be some leaning towards > JSF... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raul Raja Martinez > Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 2:35 PM > To: tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org > Subject: Gavin King's comment about presentation code and CSS in Javaposse > podcast > > Hi, just recently listen Gavin King making a comment about JSF in the > javaposse podcasts. He points out tapestry ability to separate html > templates from component logic and definitions, but he also justifies that > this shouldn't be an issue in jsf because all the design should be done in > css. > > I personally disagree, since there are little things easier to do in the > .html, but I thought it might be interesting for people to listen, the > javaposse podcasts are very cool and they interview important people in > the > java community. > > http://javaposse.com/index.php?post_category=podcasts > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
