I'm sure Howard's email was meant for the few overly ambitious zealout type of users that will sometimes blindly fight or insight flaming in a way that makes tapestry look weird. (I'm sure I've personally done this a few times at one point or another in my life..)
Is it really this important? Who cares.. Cut him a break, he did create this awesome framework for us :) On 1/10/06, kranga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > These guidelines are nothing new. The essential principles are: > > 1) People respond to criticism negatively, however wrong they are and > however right you are. This is true of the person on death-row, the white > color criminal, the 80 year old grandma. Therefore, don't criticize. > 2) Never debate using empty superlatives. E.g. this framework is > faster/easier/nicer/ etc. This implies that you are making the judgment > for > others. Simply present what you like about your framework, just the raw > facts. If your readers aren't smart enough to deduce that your feature is > an > improvement over the other frameworks, then they aren't worth evangelizing > too! > 3) Everyone wants to hear real-world stories. Lots of framework ideas look > good on paper and fall apart in production. > > > That said, what's with the shipping with 50 components. I'd hardly call > the > form a component, even if it is built as a component. Do you seriously > think > a framework could exist without that? Its like an HTML editor software > claiming they support 50 HTML tags! > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lindsay Steele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Tapestry users" <tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: Tapestry 4.0 Release Notice on TheServerSide > > > >I think Howards email was great, you take what you want out of it. > > > > I think everyone can agree that the more Tapestry flourishes, the better > > it is for it's users and the product itself. Like many things, > > being a good product alone is not aways good enough to ensure reasonable > > popularity - good marketing is always helpful. > > > > The thing is, unlike some other new frameworks, Tapestry doesn't have > a > > big corporate entity that can throw all sorts > > of resources at it for marketing purposes. To a certain extent > > marketing has to be done by the users and giving them > > a few friendly tips on how to market it better is not going to hurt. > > > > Good on Howard for giving people a heads up on news items, tips on good > > honest marketing and encouraging people to get the word out there. > > > > Francis Amanfo wrote: > > > >>Howard, > >> > >>This is really cheating! We are all grown ups and need no suggetions as > to > >>how we should compose our e-mails. We are not babies that need to be > spoon > >>fed. > >> > >>F > >> > >>On 1/9/06, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>>Please visit the article, > >>>http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=38407 , and > >>>show your support for Tapestry. > >>> > >>>Guidelines: > >>> > >>>No bashing of other frameworks. > >>> > >>>No flamewars. Be polite. Many will have closed minds and belligerant > >>>attitudes. They can not be saved from themselves, and will be first > >>>against the wall when the revolution comes. > >>> > >>>Simple is better. Say something like "I just discoverred Tapestry > >>>after using StrutsWorkMVC and was amazed at how fast my productivity > >>>skyrocketted. The fact that you can <insert favorite feature here> is > >>>simply amazing. I highly recommend Tapestry." > >>> > >>>People will respond to anecodotes better than vague praise. For > >>>example "When you make mistakes, Tapestry does an amazing job of > >>>presenting the exception to you, with a flood of data about the > >>>request and session, and even a snippet from the template file > >>>highlighting the error." This is better than "Tapestry error handling > >>>is better." > >>> > >>>If you use Tapestry or have ever benefitted from support on the user > >>>mailing list, this is your chance to take five minutes and pay back > >>>some of the effort the Tapestry team has invested in the community. > >>>Major releases are a chance to generate more excitement around > >>>Tapestry. > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Howard M. Lewis Ship > >>>Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant > >>>Creator, Jakarta Tapestry > >>>Creator, Jakarta HiveMind > >>> > >>>Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support > >>>and project work. http://howardlewisship.com > >>> > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
