good to hear i didn't waste my time , in the begining , when i ditched that jsf book for Kent's tutorials :)
On 12/20/05, Paul Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agreed to those reasons. The good argument I see for breaking the > inheritance requirement is that it would let one just instantiate a > page object straight up, instead of having to worry about getting it > from the cycle, clearing fields from previous requests, etc. The > Tapestry lifecycle as it currently exists still has its moments of > sheer confusion.... > > FWIW, I also compared JSF & Tapestry for my current project, and went > in with a bias toward JSF but chose Tapestry. > > Cheers, > > Paul > > > On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Konstantin Ignatyev wrote: > > > Personally I do not see > > much need to break the inheritance requirement. > > > > My reasons: > > - there is inevitably will be a layer in the application that > > will use some Tapestry and/or web specific things therefore placing > > it in a Page class makes sense ; > > - inconvenience of testing and necessity or simple desire to > > instantiate Page class directly probably indicates that too much > > logic is placed in the web/Tapestry specific layer. A little bit of > > refactoring helps would make application more robust, > > comprehensible and maintainable. > > > > > > > > Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That is the direction > > I'm working towards for 4.1 ... breaking the > > inheritance requirement. > > > > On 12/20/05, Vinicius Carvalho wrote: > >> I was obligated to tyr JSF for real, so far I've been only reading > >> and > >> checking some demos. I've got in a project where I HAD to learn > >> JSF, and It > >> made me like Tapestry even more. JSF has such a Struts base that > >> event that > >> annoying mapping stuff is back but with a different name: > >> navigation ... And > >> the JSP looks like a salad of tags, petty. > >> One thing I thought was cool, the idea of having any POJO being a > >> controller. Could Tapestry have this one day? Not extend BasePage > >> anymore. > >> Couldn't it use dynamic bytecode enhancing to create a proxy that > >> implements > >> page? Those are only ideas ;) > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant > > Creator, Jakarta Tapestry > > Creator, Jakarta HiveMind > > > > Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support > > and project work. http://howardlewisship.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > Konstantin Ignatyev > > > > > > > > > > PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add > > fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 > > square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of > > desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode > > seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the > > stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000 > > > > Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental > > Movement Needs a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public > > Schools. New York: State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) > > (5) (p.206) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Piano music podcast: http://inthehands.com > Other interesting stuff: http://innig.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
