Hi Eleanor.  Of course bear  in mind I haven't tried the iPhone 4S.

 I would like to be able to use an Android phone but would love Talks to be
able to work with it.




Maurice Press


-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 19 March 2012 10:04
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone

Thanks Maurice.  I for one recall you making these comments at5 the time
when you tried out the iPhone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maurice Press" <mauricepr...@enterprise.net>
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone


> Hi All.
>
> I know I said I'd take a backseat from now on  however,  I wanted to 
> make a couple of comments regarding my  experiences with using the 
> iPhone.
>
> As members of the list will have observed,  I am a great supporter of 
> Talks and love Nokia smart phones.
>
> A little while ago I purchased an iPhone 4 to see what I thought of it.
>
> I have always used an iPod touch for my music and   leisure so was 
> familiar
> with the Apple lay-out.
>
> Now let me say again that this is my personal experience.
> Firstly, I found the quality of the iPhone quite poor - in that I mean 
> the sound compared to my Nokia or previous phones.
> The main thing however was texting.  I found  this to be extremely 
> slow and although I spent time using the iPhone I  never got much 
> speed up to any of my Nokia phones.
> Also,  Since IOS 65 upgrade,  I have never liked the new voice we were 
> foisted with.
>
> I know there are those who carry around a  portable bluetooth  or 
> Bluetooth Braille keyboard but  be honest,  I want to carry as little 
> with me as
> possible not 2 or 3 devices that are connected to the    one phone ETC.
>
> I would finish by perhaps asking that unanswered question, Does one 
> want to buyh a phone for the "Phone"  or all the other communication 
> requirements.
> Just some observations.
>
>
>
> Maurice Press
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com 
> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 18 March 2012 21:39
> To: Talks Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone
>
> Christopher I am very pleased to read what you write below re Talks 
> and iPhone. I am aware of more and more blind people making the move 
> over to iPhone and I am thinking seriously about it for my necxt 
> phone, however, I have been a Talks user for 4 years now and my appeal 
> here is to the Talks developers not to let the iPhone and Android take 
> over the market of screen readers for the blind. My Symbian S60 has 
> met all my needs up to 2011 but Talks is not meeting my needs at 
> present. What then are my problems?
>
> 1. E-mail accessability is not what it was. I cannot seem to find a 
> way on my E6 to save a new e-mail address.
> 2. As pointed out by another list member, over a week ago, the Edit 
> boxes in Twitter and Facebook have Talks continually saying edit box 
> while one is writing. Yet this has only become an issue with Talks 
> released in February 2012. What surprises me is that such an issue is 
> not known at release time.
> Surely the developers run through e-mail, internet and social network 
> sites prior to release.
> 3. Despite all I said over months about the work around on E6 to start 
> writing in a word document. My comments were not listened to.
>
> Finally Talks developers, I love Talks and do not want to stop using 
> this excellent and reasonably priced software, but if my comments and 
> those of other users fall on deaf ears, then we may be forced to go 
> out and purchase an alternative mobile device than the symbian S60 
> one.
> -----Original message-----
> From: Christopher Chaltain
> Sent:  18/03/2012, 3:28  pm
> To: Talks Mailing List
> Subject: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone
>
>
> Well, after being a happy Symbian and Talks user for almost exactly 9 
> years, I finally decided to get a new smart phone, and this time I 
> went with an iPhone. Not that why I did so is important to anyone, but 
> I'll include some of my thoughts below, as well as how much I 
> appreciate Talks and the Symbian platform.
>
> I started using Talks while it was still in beta back at the end of 2002. 
> I
> got a Nokia 9290 communicator, and I think this, in conjunction with 
> Talks, was the first fully accessible smart phone available to the 
> blind. I've had
> 2 Symbian phones since then, the Nokia N75 and the AT&T Nokia E71X. 
> Each phone had it's strengths and weaknesses, but in general, I've 
> never been disappointed with Symbian or Talks.
>
> My decision to go with an iPhone was a tough one, although that was as 
> much philosophical as anything else. I type on my E71X much less than 
> I used to, so the thought of going with a touch only device became 
> less of a concern for me. I was kind of waiting for the Droid 4 (which 
> will have a keyboard), but I wasn't sure when or if AT&T would ever 
> carry the Droid 4, and after reading multiple reviews of Android and 
> Ice Cream Sandwich, it seemed like I'd be waiting quite a while for 
> Android to catch up with the iPhone with respect to accessibility.
>
> The closed nature of the iPhone also concerned me when comparing it to 
> an Android, or even a Symbian, phone, but I use the cloud more and 
> more, and I eventually decided that I could leverage the cloud enough 
> to minimize my need to use Windows or iTunes.
>
> I also started finding myself needing an IOS or Android device for 
> work and wanting one for personal use, e.g. the apps I needed for work 
> or wanted to use personally were only available on the IOS or Android 
> platforms.
> Although
> there isn't anything wrong with my E71X, it is starting to show it's 
> age, and once I decided Android would be playing catch up with the 
> iPhone with respect to accessibility for quite some time to come, even 
> given Ice Cream Sandwich. I decided there was no longer any reason to
wait.
>
> I just want to say that I never slammed the iPhone, so I don't think 
> I'm being hypocritical at all. I still feel the Symbian device and 
> Talks are perfectly adequate solutions for the right situation, and I 
> don't think anyone needs to feel like they're being left behind if 
> they choose to continue to use a Symbian device for another handset or 
> two. It's all about what you want and what gets the job done.
>
> I just want to conclude by letting the Talks developers and this list 
> know how much I appreciated the technological advances made by the 
> Talks developers. They were truly visionaries. I also want this list 
> to know how much I appreciated the support I got from this list and 
> it's members. I'm convinced that without Symbian, Talks and this list, 
> I would not have been a satisfied blind smart phone user these past 
> nine years.
>
> I'll hang out on this list for a bit, and I'm sure I'll see some of 
> you on more generic lists, but eventually I'll have to unsubscribe 
> from this list, unless of course, I can't stand the iPhone and come 
> back to Talks!
> Wow, this all seems a bit melodramatic, but Talks and this list have 
> actually been a big part of my life for most of a decade, so I hope 
> y'all will forgive my drama! Good luck everyone in that quest for the 
> perfect smart phone for your own situation!
>
> --
> Christopher (CJ)
> chalt...@gmail.com
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