I can confirm that the mobile facebook site has not been designed with headings. If you access the url on your computer, you'll encounter the exact same issues you're describing on your phone. Neither Jaws nor Talks nor any other screen reader can create headings where none exist.
Michelle -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar Sent: August 7, 2011 10:11 AM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks But this has nothing to do with Talks. If there are no headings on the Mobile Facebook site! Then you will not be able to move heading by heading. This will be true regardless of the screen reader being used on the phone. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks > Smart your correct you cant navagate by headings on mfacebook.com with > talks i just tried it on my n95. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Smart Eze" <smart....@kabsi.at> > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks > > >> That's a pity. Neither can I move through the page with the keyboard >> h-key >> for the headings as in a web page with Talks on my Nokia N82 mobile >> phone. >> >> These are some of the things I mean by "limitations". >> >> Regards, smart >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >> On >> Behalf Of Dennis Long >> Sent: 07 August 2011 14:45 >> To: Talks Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >> >> >> Smart you cant chat at all with the mobile fb site that is just how it is >> designed. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Smart Eze" <smart....@kabsi.at> >> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >> >> >>> Hello Dennis and Stephen, >>> >>> Thank you. Sorry, but I can't chat with the mobile version. The chat >>> option doesn't show up at all. >>> >>> The number of posts in the main landmark are much shortter. >>> >>> But, I like the logout link, which JAWS can see at the bottom screen >>> of >>> the >>> mobile version but not in the full version. >>> >>> Regards, smart >>> than in the normal version. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com >>> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Dennis Long >>> Sent: 06 August 2011 15:37 >>> To: Talks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >>> >>> >>> How do you find it limited in what way? what are you wanting that >>> your >>> not >>> seein? >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Smart Eze" <smart....@kabsi.at> >>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 4:34 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >>> >>> >>>>I also find the mobile version on the PC very limited in presenting >>>>information. >>>> >>>> Regards, smart >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com >>>> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa >>>> Sent: 07 August 2011 19:30 >>>> To: 'Talks Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >>>> >>>> >>>> No, I think he is using the mobile version also on PC, >>>> But mobile can achieve somethings better may be, but of cores the >>>> mobile version os very lemeted >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers: >>>> Ramy Moustafa >>>> If music be the food of love... play on. >>>> Mobile: >>>> 0020102221750 >>>> Personal email: >>>> ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com >>>> Msn and aim messengers: >>>> flutelo...@link.net >>>> Studio email: >>>> harmonystudio2...@gmail.com >>>> facebook profile: >>>> http://www.facebook.com/ >>>> Twitter: >>>> moustafa.r...@gmail.com >>>> youtube chanael: >>>> www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com >>>> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Smart Eze >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 1:15 AM >>>> To: 'Talks Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >>>> >>>> Hello Stephen, >>>> >>>> I'm also a user of FaceBook. But I find the mobile version very, >>>> very limited with information on my Nokia N82 mobile phone. >>>> >>>> How do you make it to work even much better on your mobile phone >>>> than on the PC? >>>> >>>> Thanks for any information. >>>> >>>> Regards, smart >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com >>>> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of stephen faill >>>> Sent: 06 August 2011 09:30 >>>> To: Talks Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >>>> >>>> >>>> hello list. >>>> for this is worth i will give my experiences of talks. >>>> i have the nokia e7, with all current updates, and find that talks >>>> works really well with it. i have no problems navigating round the >>>> screens, options, menus etc. i also do not have any problems with the >>>> internet and find that everything is totally accessible. >>>> i am a heavy user of facebook and to be honest i find that the mobile >>>> facebook site works well on my phone, in fact probably better than the >>>> desktop version for my pc. >>>> i admit i do not use the mail functions with my phone, but i understand >>>> that >>>> >>>> people are having some major problems. >>>> any problems i have had with talks and my nokia e7, i have either had >>>> people >>>> >>>> on this list help me out, asked for sighted assistance or just worked >>>> it out >>>> >>>> myself. >>>> if anyone requires any information on this particular phone setup: >>>> nokia e7 >>>> and the latest version of talks then please ask away. >>>> kind regards. >>>> stephen faill >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:28 PM >>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >>>> >>>>> Yes if you purchased an up to date mobile and installed the latest >>>>> talks email is not very good, symbol list is not accessible nore is >>>>> internet nore is the help system. I'm not saying this is the fault >>>>> of nuance. In previous years this did not happen where as this year >>>>> it's the third time that phone updates and talks have not been >>>>> compatible. Talks used to be streets ahead of the competition, >>>>> right now I put mobilespeak slightly ahead as it's support of maps >>>>> is better than talks while as far as I know the browser, email and >>>>> symbol list have the same issues with both screen readers. >>>>> >>>>> Bernard Hemmings >>>>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net >>>>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings >>>>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net >>>>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net >>>>> Home: 61-02-95841280 >>>>> Mobile: 61-0412177799 >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Ramy Moustafa" <moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:03 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> And, this is the main thing that make me so afraid of leaving my I >>>>>> phone and go back to nokia, I love nokia and I have now the e52 >>>>>> also, but the talks issue si the only problem for me right now So >>>>>> what r ur advices please? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers: >>>>>> Ramy Moustafa >>>>>> If music be the food of love... play on. >>>>>> Mobile: >>>>>> 0020102221750 >>>>>> Personal email: >>>>>> ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com >>>>>> Msn and aim messengers: >>>>>> flutelo...@link.net >>>>>> Studio email: >>>>>> harmonystudio2...@gmail.com >>>>>> facebook profile: >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/ >>>>>> Twitter: >>>>>> moustafa.r...@gmail.com >>>>>> youtube chanael: >>>>>> www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com >>>>>> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Dennis Long >>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:46 PM >>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Teh future of talks >>>>>> >>>>>> I dont think we will here from nuance we will have to wait until >>>>>> whenever another update is released. I am getting concerned as >>>>>> well. the Other screen reader is making great strides it seems we >>>>>> are seeing les and les updates for more program accessability as >>>>>> well as bug fixes to programs that dont fully work but remember >>>>>> none of us know what's planned for future >>>>>> >>>>>> releases other then nuance. >>>>>> this is just my opinion. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Ramy Moustafa" <moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 1:03 AM >>>>>> Subject: [Talks] Teh future of talks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Really am speaking frankly am so afraid about the talks future, >>>>>>> nokia produced many updates that talks can't cover, and some >>>>>>> applications r not working in Newer handsets. Does anyone from the >>>>>>> nuance company is here to tell us the future? Really >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> think we all must be worry because without talks we will go back >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> than >>>>>>> 10 years. >>>>>>> Thanks for your interests >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers: >>>>>>> Ramy Moustafa >>>>>>> If music be the food of love... play on. >>>>>>> Mobile: >>>>>>> 0020102221750 >>>>>>> Personal email: >>>>>>> ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com >>>>>>> Msn and aim messengers: >>>>>>> flutelo...@link.net >>>>>>> Studio email: >>>>>>> harmonystudio2...@gmail.com >>>>>>> facebook profile: >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/ >>>>>>> Twitter: >>>>>>> moustafa.r...@gmail.com >>>>>>> youtube chanael: >>>>>>> www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> - >>>>>> - >>>>>> ------- >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Talks mailing list >>>>>>> Talks@talksusers.com >>>>>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>>>>> 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