Many thanks doc. And sorry for the tone. T'was more frustration than
anything else. Appologies to all. Sincere ones at that.

Anthony D, Tom
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anthony.stormin....@live.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:01 PM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything

anthony

There is nothing stopping you from putting on other Eloquence TTS stuff like
UK (ENG) as a example! Then you will have both ENU and ENG. This give you
two TTS drivers. If you know other languages you can install them as well. 
So it has nothing to do with me having more then one voice beings you can
install what you like for the license that you have. If you have Eloquence! 
Then you can install all the Eloquences if you like one after another. Then
they will show up in the Speech selection.

If a problem isn't recreatable it for the most part unfixable! You have to
be able to recreate a problem in most cases to find out what is going on
before it can be fixed.

Like I said, wants in a while Eloquence will stop talking for me! But most
of the time, I can switch to another TTS with the Talks long Clear and then
arrowing up 1 time to UK Eloquence and pressing Select to get speech back. 
Then I can redo the command and then arrow back to US Eloquence and keep
reading. But this means you have to have both UK and US English Eloquence
TTS installed before this will work. If you do not ahve any other TTS but US
Eloquence installed! Then when you do a Talks long Clear wait 3 seconds and
then do a Talks clear to reload the US Eloquence will also work. Note in
this case there are two command being issues. The first on is a long press
of the clear and the 2nd one is a short press of it. Both require the Talks
key to be pressed first.


Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bardia Zakeri" <bardiazak...@gmail.com>
To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything


> what phone do you have
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "anthony tom studio" <homesweethome....@gmail.com>
> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything
>
>
>> Well doc, some of us don't have multiple speech engines. Ever since I've 
>> had
>> talks premium, I've never been able to use anything but the eloquence
>> engine, or nokia tts. I may have missed the instructions of which you 
>> just
>> spoke. Can you please repeat them? Seems a bit much when you've reached 
>> your
>> whit's end though!
>> Anthony D, Tom
>> live messinger
>> anthony.stormin....@live.com
>> skype
>> stormintom
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:18 AM
>> To: Talks Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything
>>
>> In most cases when Talks stops talking, it is still running. If you 1.
>> Switch to another tts speech will come back. Or 2. Unload the tts and 
>> reload
>> the tts, again speech comes back.
>>
>> I've seen this with all version of Talks. One of the above ways in most
>> cases will get the phone talking again. Instructions were sent out on 
>> what
>> to do earlyer this week on both of the above. As far as i know no one has
>> tried them to see if they work in there case.
>>
>> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>
>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>
>>
>> -original message-
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything
>> From: "Bhavesh" <bhavesh20pa...@rediffmail.com>
>> Date: 23/03/2011 8:47 AM
>>
>> Hi!
>> I think, that this is not the firmware' problem, rather, it is talks
>> problem. Cause if it was a phone problem, then the phone would have
>> restarted, etc. Other thing, is that not only me, some other friends on 
>> this
>> mailing list r also facing the same issue, dispite of having a different
>> phone. It did not occur with talks5.1 can u mention what is ur firmware's
>> release date, cause as per what i know, last it was released was on
>> july2010.
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
>> bhavesh.
>> Email produced on nokia c5-00
>> using a symbian based screen reader.
>> Gsm:
>> +919594597588
>> windows live:
>> bha...@live.com
>> skype:
>> bhavesh.patel499
>> fring:
>> bhau13-----Original Message-----
>> From: LA Watters
>> Sent:  23/03/2011, 5:55  pm
>> To: Talks Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything
>>
>>
>> Hi Bhavesh,
>>
>> The firmware on my C5 is 061.005. I updated my phone on the first march
>> 2011, so you may need to try updating your firmware.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Louis
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bhavesh" <bhavesh20pa...@rediffmail.com>
>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything
>>
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I've installed the eloquence, which i got with talks 5.20.3.
>>> My c5's firmware virsion is 31.022.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>> bhavesh.
>>> Email produced on nokia c5-00
>>> using a symbian based screen reader.
>>> Gsm:
>>> +919594597588
>>> windows live:
>>> bha...@live.com
>>> skype:
>>> bhavesh.patel499
>>> fring:
>>> bhau13-----Original Message-----
>>> From: Stephen Giggar
>>> Sent:  22/03/2011, 3:03  pm
>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything
>>>
>>>
>>> One other thing.
>>>
>>> Did both of you install the Eloquence that came with the 5.20.3 release 
>>> of
>>> Talks? Yes I know the version number didn't change between the 5.01.x
>>> release of Talks but the date on the file is different that is why I 
>>> asked
>>> if you installed the Eloquence-ENU* version that came with 5.20.3 of
>>> Talks.
>>>
>>> Also what firmware do you have on your N86 and C5 that are having 
>>> issues?
>>> This is done from the standby screen and doing a *#0000#.
>>>
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Carla savage" <ca...@astromech.demon.co.uk>
>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>> i'm getting the same problem. It mainly happens to me whilst in email 
>>>> or
>>>> on the web. Next time it happens i'll try your suggestion to see 
>>>> whether
>>>> this fixes the problem. I'm using the version of Eloquence which came
>>>> with
>>>> 5.2.3. I'm using an N86.
>>>> take care,
>>>> Carla.
>>>>
>>>> -original message-
>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything
>>>> From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgig...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 21/03/2011 7:50 pm
>>>>
>>>> hmmm
>>>>
>>>> Well when you start the other screen reader! That automatically 
>>>> disables
>>>> Talks first of all.
>>>>
>>>> Next! What TTS are you using?
>>>> What version is the TTS that you are using?
>>>>
>>>> Did you try doing a Talks followed by a long press of the Clear key to
>>>> either unload the current TTS or to bring up the TTS list if you have
>>>> more
>>>> then one installed. Then you can either do a Talks followed by a press 
>>>> of
>>>> clear to reload the current TTS or you can arrow to another TTS and 
>>>> press
>>>> select if more then one is installed.
>>>>
>>>> Personally myself, I would try another TTS and see if the problem
>>>> continues.
>>>> Sound like the tts that you are using is crashing.
>>>>
>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>
>>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Bhavesh" <bhavesh20pa...@rediffmail.com>
>>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 2:43 PM
>>>> Subject: [Talks] Talks suddenly hangs while reading anything
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>> i'm facing a strange problem in my nokia c5-00. Whenever i start 
>>>>> reading
>>>>> anything using say all command talks+down arrow, it hangs 
>>>>> automatically.
>>>>> This did not occur in 5.1 version of talks. Then i have to again 
>>>>> enable
>>>>> talks using mobilespeak.
>>>>> Is anybody facing the same problem in c5, or any other phones?
>>>>> I've turned off the keypad tones. Please reply, if u have any
>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>> bhavesh.
>>>>> Email produced on nokia c5-00
>>>>> using a symbian based screen reader.
>>>>> Gsm:
>>>>> +919594597588
>>>>> windows live:
>>>>> bha...@live.com
>>>>> skype:
>>>>> bhavesh.patel499
>>>>> fring:
>>>>> bhau13
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