Hi Eleanor Well I have just been back on the website, I can't see the daisy to go application but I was under the impression that the 5.2 installer included that application too, I thought that is how I read the release notes.
Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:09 PM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes Oh sorry Adrian, not Neil, *smile* but that link I gave you actually opens a page with the relevant files. You obviously want the Talks 5.2 which came out today and likewise D2GO. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22...@googlemail.com> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes > Hi Neil > > I have your website open now but I can't seem to locate the > downloads, how do I find the up-dates or files to download > please > > > Regards > > Adrien > > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com > [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Neil > Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:20 PM > To: Talks Mailing List; talks...@freelists.org; The > Accessible Phones Discussion List > Subject: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes > > Dear All, > > TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest > build of Nuance Talks, offering a wide range of new support > for both OVI Maps and newer Symbian ^3 devices. > > For the full release notes please read below. > > You can immediately download the latest version of Talks > from the TalkNav web-site, and for those of you needing an > update to your license, we can provide these 24 hours a day > 7 days a week with instant activation. > > enjoy... > > Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20 > Release Notification > > 1. Introduction > > We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility > Suite - Nuance TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting > Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th Edition for February 17, 2011. > > > This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in Nuance > TALKS. Screen magnification using ZOOMS is not yet supported > on Symbian^3 in this release. > > > For Users with a Premium license this version also contains > the new Daisy2go 2.01 minor update. > > > This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and > Vocalizer as the previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22, > respectively). The TTS installation file for Eloquence US > English has been updated to extend the user dictionary. > > > Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition > licenses generated after November 13th, 2007 (the release > date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition). In particular, this > means that it can be installed by any customer who is > currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring > a new license. > > 2. The new handsets > > 2.1. Changes to the list of supported phone > models > > The following handsets are newly supported (please see > section 4 "Known Issues" about some limitations): > > > Nokia C6-00 > Nokia C7-00 > Nokia E5-00 > Nokia N8-00 > > We also assume the following phones to work without major > problems. However we have not got enough test results yet to > definitely confirm this: > > > Nokia C5-03 > Nokia C6-01 > Nokia E7-00 > > See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for > this version. > > 3. What's New? > > This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20 > compared to the previous version (5.01). > > 3.1. Support for Symbian^3 > > Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports > the new Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some of > its most recent smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and the > C7-00. Support for the just-released E7-00 is likely, but > has not yet been confirmed. > > > Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar manner > to the approach used for 5th Edition touch screen phones, by > relying on a combination of list navigation using the side > keys of the phone together with the ability to "explore" the > screen. As reminder, "exploring" can be started by holding > the finger on one position for about half a second, and then > moving around. Lifting and tapping again anywhere on the > screen will click on the most recently "explored" position. > > > As usual, some features, such as side key navigation, are > only available once the phone has been powered off and back > on after installing or re-enabling TALKS. > > > As a special feature for Symbian^3 phones which do not > include physical [Call] and [Exit] keys, such as the N8-00, > two new TALKS shortcuts have been introduced to still be > able to perform these important functions quickly: > > > [Talks],[Power] simulates the [Call] key, e.g. to accept an > incoming call or to open the list of most recently dialled > calls. > [Talks],[long Power] simulates the [Exit] key, to hang up or > reject a call. Note that the call is only hung up after the > [Power] key is released, unlike with most other "long" TALKS > commands. > > A few remarks on specific areas with limited accessibility > on Symbian^3 phones: > > . Symbian^3: screen magnification using ZOOMS and > Automation are not yet supported. > > . Some Symbian^3-specific gestures, such as > pinch-to-zoom and long-tapping a menu item to open its > context menu are not available while TALKS is running. > Anyway, in the case of context menus it is generally > possible to access the same functions by navigating to the > menu item using the side keys, and then opening the Options > menu. > > . It is not yet possible for TALKS to speak while a > phone call is in progress. Speech is however available when > an incoming call is ringing, and the ringtone has been muted > by pressing [Key 2]. Please note that TALKS does not > yet announce the number or name of the caller in this case. > It is therefore recommended to use the "Say caller's name" > option in the current profile to get this information > instead. > > . The new Conversations view in Messaging, which > lists all the incoming and outgoing messages for a > particular contact, is not fully supported in this version. > This view also opens by default when reacting to an incoming > message from the pop-up dialog in the home screen, so it is > recommended to go to the Options menu in the Messaging > application, and to change the Message View setting from > Conversations to Inbox. The Conversation view uses an > embedded browser, so it can be made partially accessible > using the new feature described in section 3.3 (see below). > > . Selecting a bookmark in the web browser is only > possible by exploring the screen and tapping onto the list > item, not by pressing [long Vol Down] on the list item. > > 3.2. Support for Ovi Maps > > This version of TALKS introduces support for the Ovi Maps 3 > application that is either built-in or available as a > download for most devices from Series 60 3rd Edition FP1 > onwards. Initial support has been optimized for Ovi Maps > 3.03 and 3.04 on keyboard-phones, though earlier and later > versions (as found, for example on Symbian^3) can be used > successfully as well. > > > Generally, important information and focus details are read > as usual on most screens. A few specific details are worth > mentioning: > > > On the "My Position" screen, TALKS reads the address of the > current position by default. Pressing [Talks],[long Key 2] > for additional information also reads the city/region. > While following a route on the "Drive" and "Walk" screens, > TALKS will read the street and distance to the next turn by > default, and give additional information (e.g. current > position, distance to destination etc.) when pressing > [Talks],[long Key 2]. > While following a route in "driving" mode, it is possible to > preview the next turns by pressing [Up] several times. This > will read the street names and distances to travel for each > of the turns. This feature is not available in "walking" > mode. > While following a route, the standard keyboard commands of > Ovi Maps are available, such as [4] to repeat reading of the > last instruction and [2] to save the current position as a > favourite. > Additional services, such as "Weather", "Events" or "More" > in the main menu are not yet accessible. > The contents of the "About" screen (under Options > Support) > are currently not read. > > Please note that on touch phones, some default read-outs may > not be optimal, but all information is still accessible by > "exploring" the screen. > > 3.3. Access to embedded browser views (e.g. > Help screens) > > An increasing number of applications are using an embedded > version of web browser to display content that does not > directly come from a web page. Examples are the display of > Help pages in many applications on 3rd Edition FP2 and later > phones, contents of e-mail messages in HTML format and the > Conversations view on Symbian^3 phones. > > > On touch phones, these screens can be recognized by the fact > that the virtual keyboard for the browser is displayed, but > that navigating the page beyond the page title is not > possible. Also, the announcement of the number of links (or > "Page has no links") is missing. > > > Version 5.20 offers a method to make the textual content > (though not the links) in some of these pages accessible > upon request: when such a page is shown on the screen, > simply press [Talks],[Down] to read the page contents. If > necessary, this will first try to convert the page text into > a readable format, and then start reading it. > > > In some cases, it may be necessary to press the key a second > time to commence reading. Also, this method does yet work in > all applications. > > 3.4. Various changes > > This section lists further changes to TALKS that were made > in this update: > > > Application support: > > > Focus in Nokia Internet Radio is now recognized. > Lists in N97 web radio are now read. > Made several improvements to accessibility of Java apps > (e.g. automatic reading of non-editable text fields and of > some types of input controls). > New e-mail application on C6-00 is now supported. > Reduced verbosity of Calendar app on newer phones (e.g. > E52), and improved reliability of focus reading in some > views. > > Touch screen improvements: > > > When exploring, objects that consist of nothing but an > unlabeled graphic are spoken as "Icon". > Icon for closing full screen in lower right corner of touch > browser is now read (as a soft key). > Holding [Camera] key while exploring screen forces explore > mode, and prevents accidental clicking. > [Talks],[long Vol Down] to switch between navigation and > volume control now takes effect immediately, and works in > applications where it failed previously, such as Daisy2go. > Fixed incorrect cycling on [long Vol Up] from softkeys back > to focus on screens with Text object (e.g. Notes or New > Message). > > Daisy2go improvements: > > > Fixed some cases where a few seconds were cut off at the end > of an audio file. > Changed tab width in Settings so all three tabs are > accessible by touch. > > Bug fixes: > > > Fixed out-of-memory messages after opening and closing a > large number of applications or messages. > Fixed reading of Symbol table with new E52/E72 firmware > 051.x. > Fixed text entry in browser on phones with new web browser > 7.2, and on N97mini. > Added missing punctuation reading for some common Unicode > dash characters, and introduced short pauses when reading > forced line breaks. > Fixed some cases where order of punctuation and > right-to-left text is incorrect, or where right-to-left text > was read in the wrong order. > Fixed problems with finding user dictionaries and app > settings on drive F, especially after moving TALKS > installation to a different drive. > 4. Known Issues with specific handsets and apps > > . Touch phones: currently, there are some > limitations to the use of the on-screen keyboard for text > entry. In particular, the menus for switching to other > keyboard layouts and for picking suggestions from the T9 > dictionary are not fully accessible. Switching to other > keyboard layouts is not recommended, as some of them (e.g. > mini-Qwerty or handwriting) are not yet supported by TALKS, > and can be difficult to exit. > > . Touch phones: the symbol table in the virtual > keyboard is currently not accessible. On 5th Edition phones > only (but not on Symbian^3) opening the symbol table in the > on-screen keyboard can lead to the keyboard stopping to take > input until you press [Exit] to go to the main menu, and > then return to the application where you were entering text. > > . Touch phones: text entry into an object announced > as "Fields" (e.g. a date or a time) is not supported well by > this version of TALKS, as the virtual keyboard cannot be > used with speech. This limits the use of the Calendar and > Clock applications that rely on these types of objects for > date and time input. > > . On some phones, holding the [Camera] key does not > launch the Camera application while this version of TALKS is > active. The camera can still be opened through the phone's > menu, or assigned to a softkey on the home screen. > > . Internet radio on 3rd Edition phones: long list > items start scrolling horizontally when they become focused, > so TALKS will repeat their contents partially a few times > until they stop moving. Also, some details on the > "Now playing" screen are not read by default, though they > are available through the Object Viewer (a feature only > available in TALKS Premium). > > . N97: training mode will read the digits, rather > than the letters, for the keys in the top row of the QWERTY > keyboard. > > . Some keyboard functions, such as [Talks],[digit] > shortcuts on the Idle screen and the use of the side keys to > navigate through menus on 5th Edition, are only supported > after the phone has been rebooted once after installing or > re-enabling TALKS. > > . E55: [Talks],[digit] shortcuts have been reported > to not work properly on this phone, most likely as a result > of the unusual keyboard layout. > > . 3rd Edition (FP1 and FP2): the "Search" > application is not supported. > > . 3rd Edition FP2: You will notice a slow response > of voice recognition "beep" after holding [Key 2] when TALKS > is not muted > > . E75: When using ZOOMS, moving around the screen by > holding down the cursor keys is currently not possible. The > magnified portion of the screen always follows the current > focus position. > > . N96: "Photos" application (and "Photos" submenu of > "Gallery") is not supported. > > . N96: Daisy2Go does not support firmware versions > prior to 20.x of this phone. > > 5. FAQ > > Q: Your software does not install on my E-Series handset or > branded device, and reports a Certificate Error! Why? > A: While TALKS&ZOOMS for Symbian itself is certified, and > thus can be installed on any supported handset, the > installers for the TTS engines (Eloquence or Vocalizer for > Mobile) are not signed. E-Series handsets and some branded > devices only accept the installation of signed software, > unless you turn of the corresponding option inside the > Application Manager: > > . Open the phone menu. > > . Open the App. Manager inside the Tools folder > > . Press "Options", then select "Settings". > > . Set "Software Installation" from "Signed only" to > "All". > > . Press "Back" to close the Settings dialogue, then > "Exit" to close the App. Manager. > > . Now, you can install the TTS engine. > > Another reason could be that the date on your phone is not > set correctly - as Symbian apps need to be digitally signed, > SIS files can only be installed if the phone is set to a > valid date. > > > Q: Can I install the new release of TALKS&ZOOMS, while a > previous release is active? > > A: Yes, if the new version is installed to the same memory > location as the previous release. If you would like to > change the memory location, you have to remove the previous > release first! > > > Q: Why do I get an "Upgrade error" when installing the S60 > 3rd/5th Edition version? > > A: The most likely reasons are that you have used a beta > release, or already have the Nokia TTS driver available that > was installed as a separate file with version 3.10. Please > remove any beta version, as well as the Nokia TTS driver or > the Nuance Speech2Go Reader application, before upgrading to > TALKS 5.20. > > > Q: Why do I get an "Invalid serial number" error when trying > to activate a demo version of TALKS, even though I have > entered the code correctly and never used TALKS on this > phone before? > > A: The most likely reason is that TALKS thinks the demo has > already "expired" because the date on the phone is set > incorrectly, usually to some date in the future. > > 6. Full compatibility list > > 6.1. Current models > > This section lists compatible handsets running on Series 60 > 3rd Edition Feature Pack 2, Series 60 5th Edition and > Symbian^3, many of which are available at least in some > markets: > > > Keyboard phones: > Nokia 5320 XpressMusic > Nokia 5630 XpressMusic > Nokia 6700 slide (but not 6700 classic!) > Nokia 6210 Navigator > Nokia 6220 Classic > Nokia 6650 fold > Nokia 6710 Navigator > Nokia 6720 classic > Nokia 6730 classic > Nokia 6790 Surge / slide > Nokia C5-00 > Nokia E5-00 > Nokia E52 > Nokia E66 > Nokia E71 > Nokia E71x > Nokia E72 > Nokia E73 > Nokia E75 > Nokia N78 > Nokia N79 > Nokia N85 > Nokia N86 > Nokia N96 > Touch screen phones: > Nokia 5800 XpressMusic > Nokia C6-00 > Nokia C7-00 > Nokia N8-00 > Nokia N97 > Nokia N97mini > Nokia X6 > Untested, but expected to work: > Nokia 5228 Xpress Music > Nokia 5230 Xpress Music > Nokia 5235 Xpress Music > Nokia 5530 Xpress Music > Nokia 5730 Xpress Music > Nokia C5-03 > Nokia C6-01 > Nokia E7-00 > Nokia X5-01 > > 6.2. Earlier models (3rd Edition Feature Pack 1 > and older) > > This section lists handsets running earlier versions of > Series 60 3rd Edition which can still be upgraded to run > TALKS 5.00. However, they are typically no longer available > in most regions except as second-hand and refurbished > devices. > > > Nokia 3250 > Nokia 5500 > Nokia 5700 > Nokia 6110 Navigator > Nokia 6120C > Nokia 6121C > Nokia 6124 Classic > Nokia 6290 > Nokia E50 > Nokia E51 > Nokia E60 > Nokia E61 > Nokia E61i > Nokia E62 > Nokia E63 > Nokia E65 > Nokia E70 > Nokia E90 > Nokia N71 > Nokia N72 > Nokia N73 > Nokia N75 > Nokia N76 > Nokia N80 > Nokia N81/ N81 8GB > Nokia N82 > Nokia N91 > Nokia N95 / N95 8GB > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > Talks List Administrator > > Twitter @NeilBarnfather > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for > all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit > www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
