Hi all: Am just asking about the reading symbols. Because I knew that it was having some major problems, and the documents didn't mention it. Thanks
Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:48 PM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes EVERYONE READ the release notes!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's why there there!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ramy Moustafa" <moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes > Thanks so much but does anyone try it on e72? All problem ssolved or still > no? > > > Cheers: > Ramy Moustafa > If music be the food of love... play on. > Mobile: > 0020102221750 > Personal email: > ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com > Msn and aim messengers: > flutelo...@link.net > Studio email: > harmonystudio2...@gmail.com > facebook profile: > http://www.facebook.com/ > Twitter: > moustafa.r...@gmail.com > youtube chanael: > www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] > On > Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:20 PM > To: Talks Mailing List; talks...@freelists.org; The Accessible Phones > Discussion List > Subject: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes > > Dear All, > > TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest build of Nuance > Talks, offering a wide range of new support for both OVI Maps and newer > Symbian ^3 devices. > > For the full release notes please read below. > > You can immediately download the latest version of Talks from the TalkNav > web-site, and for those of you needing an update to your license, we can > provide these 24 hours a day 7 days a week with instant activation. > > enjoy... > > Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20 > Release Notification > > 1. Introduction > > We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - Nuance > TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th > Edition for February 17, 2011. > > > This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in Nuance TALKS. Screen > magnification using ZOOMS is not yet supported on Symbian^3 in this > release. > > > For Users with a Premium license this version also contains the new > Daisy2go > 2.01 minor update. > > > This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer as the > previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22, respectively). The TTS installation file > for > Eloquence US English has been updated to extend the user dictionary. > > > Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated > after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd > Edition). > In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer who is > currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring a new > license. > > 2. The new handsets > > 2.1. Changes to the list of supported phone models > > The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 "Known > Issues" about some limitations): > > > Nokia C6-00 > Nokia C7-00 > Nokia E5-00 > Nokia N8-00 > > We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. > However > we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this: > > > Nokia C5-03 > Nokia C6-01 > Nokia E7-00 > > See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this version. > > 3. What's New? > > This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20 compared to the > previous version (5.01). > > 3.1. Support for Symbian^3 > > Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports the new > Symbian^3 > platform that is used by Nokia in some of its most recent smartphone > models, > such as the N8-00 and the C7-00. Support for the just-released E7-00 is > likely, but has not yet been confirmed. > > > Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar manner to the > approach > used for 5th Edition touch screen phones, by relying on a combination of > list navigation using the side keys of the phone together with the ability > to "explore" the screen. As reminder, "exploring" can be started by > holding > the finger on one position for about half a second, and then moving > around. > Lifting and tapping again anywhere on the screen will click on the most > recently "explored" position. > > > As usual, some features, such as side key navigation, are only available > once the phone has been powered off and back on after installing or > re-enabling TALKS. > > > As a special feature for Symbian^3 phones which do not include physical > [Call] and [Exit] keys, such as the N8-00, two new TALKS shortcuts have > been > introduced to still be able to perform these important functions quickly: > > > [Talks],[Power] simulates the [Call] key, e.g. to accept an incoming call > or > to open the list of most recently dialled calls. > [Talks],[long Power] simulates the [Exit] key, to hang up or reject a > call. > Note that the call is only hung up after the [Power] key is released, > unlike > with most other "long" TALKS commands. > > A few remarks on specific areas with limited accessibility on Symbian^3 > phones: > > . Symbian^3: screen magnification using ZOOMS and Automation are > not > yet supported. > > . Some Symbian^3-specific gestures, such as pinch-to-zoom and > long-tapping a menu item to open its context menu are not available while > TALKS is running. Anyway, in the case of context menus it is generally > possible to access the same functions by navigating to the menu item using > the side keys, and then opening the Options menu. > > . It is not yet possible for TALKS to speak while a phone call is > in > progress. Speech is however available when an incoming call is ringing, > and > the ringtone has been muted by pressing [Key 2]. Please note that > TALKS does not yet announce the number or name of the caller in this case. > It is therefore recommended to use the "Say caller's name" option in the > current profile to get this information instead. > > . The new Conversations view in Messaging, which lists all the > incoming and outgoing messages for a particular contact, is not fully > supported in this version. This view also opens by default when reacting > to > an incoming message from the pop-up dialog in the home screen, so it is > recommended to go to the Options menu in the Messaging application, and to > change the Message View setting from Conversations to Inbox. The > Conversation view uses an embedded browser, so it can be made partially > accessible using the new feature described in section 3.3 (see below). > > . Selecting a bookmark in the web browser is only possible by > exploring the screen and tapping onto the list item, not by pressing [long > Vol Down] on the list item. > > 3.2. Support for Ovi Maps > > This version of TALKS introduces support for the Ovi Maps 3 application > that > is either built-in or available as a download for most devices from Series > 60 3rd Edition FP1 onwards. Initial support has been optimized for Ovi > Maps > 3.03 and 3.04 on keyboard-phones, though earlier and later versions (as > found, for example on Symbian^3) can be used successfully as well. > > > Generally, important information and focus details are read as usual on > most > screens. A few specific details are worth mentioning: > > > On the "My Position" screen, TALKS reads the address of the current > position > by default. Pressing [Talks],[long Key 2] for additional information also > reads the city/region. > While following a route on the "Drive" and "Walk" screens, TALKS will read > the street and distance to the next turn by default, and give additional > information (e.g. current position, distance to destination etc.) when > pressing [Talks],[long Key 2]. > While following a route in "driving" mode, it is possible to preview the > next turns by pressing [Up] several times. This will read the street names > and distances to travel for each of the turns. This feature is not > available > in "walking" mode. > While following a route, the standard keyboard commands of Ovi Maps are > available, such as [4] to repeat reading of the last instruction and [2] > to > save the current position as a favourite. > Additional services, such as "Weather", "Events" or "More" in the main > menu > are not yet accessible. > The contents of the "About" screen (under Options > Support) are currently > not read. > > Please note that on touch phones, some default read-outs may not be > optimal, > but all information is still accessible by "exploring" the screen. > > 3.3. Access to embedded browser views (e.g. Help screens) > > An increasing number of applications are using an embedded version of web > browser to display content that does not directly come from a web page. > Examples are the display of Help pages in many applications on 3rd Edition > FP2 and later phones, contents of e-mail messages in HTML format and the > Conversations view on Symbian^3 phones. > > > On touch phones, these screens can be recognized by the fact that the > virtual keyboard for the browser is displayed, but that navigating the > page > beyond the page title is not possible. Also, the announcement of the > number > of links (or "Page has no links") is missing. > > > Version 5.20 offers a method to make the textual content (though not the > links) in some of these pages accessible upon request: when such a page is > shown on the screen, simply press [Talks],[Down] to read the page > contents. > If necessary, this will first try to convert the page text into a readable > format, and then start reading it. > > > In some cases, it may be necessary to press the key a second time to > commence reading. Also, this method does yet work in all applications. > > 3.4. Various changes > > This section lists further changes to TALKS that were made in this update: > > > Application support: > > > Focus in Nokia Internet Radio is now recognized. > Lists in N97 web radio are now read. > Made several improvements to accessibility of Java apps (e.g. automatic > reading of non-editable text fields and of some types of input controls). > New e-mail application on C6-00 is now supported. > Reduced verbosity of Calendar app on newer phones (e.g. E52), and improved > reliability of focus reading in some views. > > Touch screen improvements: > > > When exploring, objects that consist of nothing but an unlabeled graphic > are > spoken as "Icon". > Icon for closing full screen in lower right corner of touch browser is now > read (as a soft key). > Holding [Camera] key while exploring screen forces explore mode, and > prevents accidental clicking. > [Talks],[long Vol Down] to switch between navigation and volume control > now > takes effect immediately, and works in applications where it failed > previously, such as Daisy2go. > Fixed incorrect cycling on [long Vol Up] from softkeys back to focus on > screens with Text object (e.g. Notes or New Message). > > Daisy2go improvements: > > > Fixed some cases where a few seconds were cut off at the end of an audio > file. > Changed tab width in Settings so all three tabs are accessible by touch. > > Bug fixes: > > > Fixed out-of-memory messages after opening and closing a large number of > applications or messages. > Fixed reading of Symbol table with new E52/E72 firmware 051.x. > Fixed text entry in browser on phones with new web browser 7.2, and on > N97mini. > Added missing punctuation reading for some common Unicode dash characters, > and introduced short pauses when reading forced line breaks. > Fixed some cases where order of punctuation and right-to-left text is > incorrect, or where right-to-left text was read in the wrong order. > Fixed problems with finding user dictionaries and app settings on drive F, > especially after moving TALKS installation to a different drive. > 4. Known Issues with specific handsets and apps > > . Touch phones: currently, there are some limitations to the use > of > the on-screen keyboard for text entry. In particular, the menus for > switching to other keyboard layouts and for picking suggestions from the > T9 > dictionary are not fully accessible. Switching to other keyboard layouts > is > not recommended, as some of them (e.g. mini-Qwerty or handwriting) are not > yet supported by TALKS, and can be difficult to exit. > > . Touch phones: the symbol table in the virtual keyboard is > currently not accessible. On 5th Edition phones only (but not on > Symbian^3) > opening the symbol table in the on-screen keyboard can lead to the > keyboard > stopping to take input until you press [Exit] to go to the main menu, and > then return to the application where you were entering text. > > . Touch phones: text entry into an object announced as "Fields" > (e.g. a date or a time) is not supported well by this version of TALKS, as > the virtual keyboard cannot be used with speech. This limits the use of > the > Calendar and Clock applications that rely on these types of objects for > date > and time input. > > . On some phones, holding the [Camera] key does not launch the > Camera application while this version of TALKS is active. The camera can > still be opened through the phone's menu, or assigned to a softkey on the > home screen. > > . Internet radio on 3rd Edition phones: long list items start > scrolling horizontally when they become focused, so TALKS will repeat > their > contents partially a few times until they stop moving. Also, some details > on the "Now playing" screen are not read by default, though they are > available through the Object Viewer (a feature only available in TALKS > Premium). > > . N97: training mode will read the digits, rather than the > letters, > for the keys in the top row of the QWERTY keyboard. > > . Some keyboard functions, such as [Talks],[digit] shortcuts on > the > Idle screen and the use of the side keys to navigate through menus on 5th > Edition, are only supported after the phone has been rebooted once after > installing or re-enabling TALKS. > > > . E55: [Talks],[digit] shortcuts have been reported to not work > properly on this phone, most likely as a result of the unusual keyboard > layout. > > . 3rd Edition (FP1 and FP2): the "Search" application is not > supported. > > . 3rd Edition FP2: You will notice a slow response of voice > recognition "beep" after holding [Key 2] when TALKS is not muted > > . E75: When using ZOOMS, moving around the screen by holding down > the cursor keys is currently not possible. The magnified portion of the > screen always follows the current focus position. > > . N96: "Photos" application (and "Photos" submenu of "Gallery") is > not supported. > > . N96: Daisy2Go does not support firmware versions prior to 20.x > of > this phone. > > 5. FAQ > > Q: Your software does not install on my E-Series handset or branded > device, > and reports a Certificate Error! Why? > A: While TALKS&ZOOMS for Symbian itself is certified, and thus can be > installed on any supported handset, the installers for the TTS engines > (Eloquence or Vocalizer for Mobile) are not signed. E-Series handsets and > some branded devices only accept the installation of signed software, > unless > you turn of the corresponding option inside the Application Manager: > > . Open the phone menu. > > . Open the App. Manager inside the Tools folder > > . Press "Options", then select "Settings". > > . Set "Software Installation" from "Signed only" to "All". > > . Press "Back" to close the Settings dialogue, then "Exit" to > close > the App. Manager. > > . Now, you can install the TTS engine. > > Another reason could be that the date on your phone is not set correctly - > as Symbian apps need to be digitally signed, SIS files can only be > installed > if the phone is set to a valid date. > > > Q: Can I install the new release of TALKS&ZOOMS, while a previous release > is > active? > > A: Yes, if the new version is installed to the same memory location as the > previous release. If you would like to change the memory location, you > have > to remove the previous release first! > > > Q: Why do I get an "Upgrade error" when installing the S60 3rd/5th Edition > version? > > A: The most likely reasons are that you have used a beta release, or > already > have the Nokia TTS driver available that was installed as a separate file > with version 3.10. Please remove any beta version, as well as the Nokia > TTS > driver or the Nuance Speech2Go Reader application, before upgrading to > TALKS > 5.20. > > > Q: Why do I get an "Invalid serial number" error when trying to activate a > demo version of TALKS, even though I have entered the code correctly and > never used TALKS on this phone before? > > A: The most likely reason is that TALKS thinks the demo has already > "expired" because the date on the phone is set incorrectly, usually to > some > date in the future. > > 6. Full compatibility list > > 6.1. Current models > > This section lists compatible handsets running on Series 60 3rd Edition > Feature Pack 2, Series 60 5th Edition and Symbian^3, many of which are > available at least in some markets: > > > Keyboard phones: > Nokia 5320 XpressMusic > Nokia 5630 XpressMusic > Nokia 6700 slide (but not 6700 classic!) > Nokia 6210 Navigator > Nokia 6220 Classic > Nokia 6650 fold > Nokia 6710 Navigator > Nokia 6720 classic > Nokia 6730 classic > Nokia 6790 Surge / slide > Nokia C5-00 > Nokia E5-00 > Nokia E52 > Nokia E66 > Nokia E71 > Nokia E71x > Nokia E72 > Nokia E73 > Nokia E75 > Nokia N78 > Nokia N79 > Nokia N85 > Nokia N86 > Nokia N96 > Touch screen phones: > Nokia 5800 XpressMusic > Nokia C6-00 > Nokia C7-00 > Nokia N8-00 > Nokia N97 > Nokia N97mini > Nokia X6 > Untested, but expected to work: > Nokia 5228 Xpress Music > Nokia 5230 Xpress Music > Nokia 5235 Xpress Music > Nokia 5530 Xpress Music > Nokia 5730 Xpress Music > Nokia C5-03 > Nokia C6-01 > Nokia E7-00 > Nokia X5-01 > > 6.2. Earlier models (3rd Edition Feature Pack 1 and older) > > This section lists handsets running earlier versions of Series 60 3rd > Edition which can still be upgraded to run TALKS 5.00. However, they are > typically no longer available in most regions except as second-hand and > refurbished devices. > > > Nokia 3250 > Nokia 5500 > Nokia 5700 > Nokia 6110 Navigator > Nokia 6120C > Nokia 6121C > Nokia 6124 Classic > Nokia 6290 > Nokia E50 > Nokia E51 > Nokia E60 > Nokia E61 > Nokia E61i > Nokia E62 > Nokia E63 > Nokia E65 > Nokia E70 > Nokia E90 > Nokia N71 > Nokia N72 > Nokia N73 > Nokia N75 > Nokia N76 > Nokia N80 > Nokia N81/ N81 8GB > Nokia N82 > Nokia N91 > Nokia N95 / N95 8GB > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > Talks List Administrator > > Twitter @NeilBarnfather > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
