So, as it turns out, despite the fact that my generic charger works just
fine with at least 4 other devices to charge them, my particular USB charger
is just defective in that it will not charge my particular N86.  I borrowed
a friend's generic USB charger and it worked perfectly fine to charge my
N86.   The funny thing is that mine is the over-priced Radio Shack version
of the charger and his is the laughably cheap ultra-generric  no-name
charger from Ebay.  

So, in summary, there is nothing special that needs to be done to charge
these Nokias, you just have to test your devices to make sure they work.
Assume nothing.

Evan


-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:57 AM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re: charging N86 with USB cable

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for that clarification and apologies to Evan for the mis-information.

Best wishes,
Brian.

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
Sent: 01 September 2010 18:15
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re: charging N86 with USB cable

Again to people the n86 doesn't use a mini USB cable. It uses a micro USB
plug. A mini plug is to big. So if you are going to tell someone what type
of cable to look for. It is a micro and not mini as far as the end that goes
in the phone.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed by: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

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-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re:  charging N86 with USB cable
From: "Brian Campbell" <brian.campb...@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: 01/09/2010 11:54 AM

Hi Evan,

I have an N86 and I also own the type of charger you mentioned. I have never
used it to charge the phone as I have always used the charger that came with
the phone. But I, like you, had assumed that it would be possible to use the
IPod-type charger as well, particularly, perhaps, when travelling. What I
have noticed is that the mini USB plug on the N86 is quite fragile (much
more delicate-feeling than mini USB's on other devices I have come across).
Even when using the charger supplied with the N86 my phone occasionally
doesn't start charging and I have to reconnect the cable. My thought is
that, when using the data cable with the IPod-type plug, you might have to
be quite careful that it is properly seated. Just a thought.

Best wishes,
Brian.

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Evan Silver
Sent: 31 August 2010 00:06
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re: charging N86 with USB cable

Yes.  That is exactly the kind of charger I am talking about.  I understand
that it is recommended to use the charger that is included in the phone
package.  I am wondering however, if these types of generic USB AC wall
adapters can deliver either a lesser voltage or a greater voltage than would
a standard USB port of a computer.  I thought the USB standard is a standard
that would need to be adhered to in order to work with a variety of devices.

Thanks again. 

Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brad Keller
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:43 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: [UCE] Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable

I know the type of charger you are talking about, the end that plugs into
the wall looks basically like any other charger but instead of having a
fixed cord with a fixed type of plug at the other end there is a USB port
like the ones on the pc on one side of the block thtat plugs into the wall
so all you have to do is plug a standard USB cable into it. The problem
still could be as many people have suggested of not the correct charging
rate for the phone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Silver" <e...@evansilver.com>
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable


What I would like to emphasize in my situation, is that I am indeed using
the included Nokia micro USB data/sync cable; This is the same exact cable I
use to connect my phone to a USB port of my PC for both charging and
synchronizing with PC suite.  The only difference is that I would like to
occasionally use an after-market AC adapter which simply has a USB port to
plug in the Nokia Data/sync cable to charge the phone.  This is useful as a
secondary charging method when I travel, and I do not want to bring a bunch
of adapters.  I can just bring the appropriate cables and the one single AC
wall wart with the USB port.

I was undr the impression that this is a very common method for charging
devices which use a USB port to charge from a computer; instead we just cut
out the computer as a middle-man and plug straight into the electrical
outlet in the wall.  Like I said, this works just fine with my iPod and Book
Sense.  Thanks again for any ideas.

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Hussein Patwa
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:54 PM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable

I'll grant that this is one area where the iPhone has it right - no separate
charger, just a cable which either plugs into the charger or the computer.

But yes, I concur that using the included accessories is the best policy.
Under or over volting the phone can and will have undesirable results.

_______________________________________
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Kind Regards and Best Wishes,

Hussein.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks- 
> boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
> Sent: 29 August 2010 22:34
> To: Talks Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable
>
> Yes when you plug it in like that, make sure that it says charging. If 
> it doesn't say charging! Then this means that the power plug isn't 
> putting
out
> the correct current for the phone to detect it should be charging. At 
> that point, you can either get a different USB power plug or just use 
> what is included with the phone.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable
>
>
> > Is there something special? Yes, I would just avoid using it with 
> > your cell phone, since you already have an approved ac-to-USB 
> > charging cable.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, 
> > California
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Evan Silver" <e...@evansilver.com>
> > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 11:32
> > Subject: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > I successfully and regularly charge my Nokia N86 with the included 
> > micro USB AC adapter plugged into a wall outlet and the included 
> > micro USB data cable plugged into a USB port of my computer.
> > However, when I use the same included data cable and plug it into a 
> > a wall adapter which has a
standard
> > USB port for charging; the phone will not charge.  Infact, the phone
will
> > power itself on when I plug it in and seemingly drain the battery 
> > even faster than if it were not plugged in.  By the way, I use this 
> > same USB AC adapter to plug in an iPod data cable and a mini USB 
> > cable to charge a Book Sense; these both work fine.  Is there 
> > something special I should be
doing
> > to charge my N86 when using the data cable with an AC adapter like this?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Evan
> >
> >
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