So, as it turns out, despite the fact that my generic charger works just fine with at least 4 other devices to charge them, my particular USB charger is just defective in that it will not charge my particular N86. I borrowed a friend's generic USB charger and it worked perfectly fine to charge my N86. The funny thing is that mine is the over-priced Radio Shack version of the charger and his is the laughably cheap ultra-generric no-name charger from Ebay.
So, in summary, there is nothing special that needs to be done to charge these Nokias, you just have to test your devices to make sure they work. Assume nothing. Evan -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Brian Campbell Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:57 AM To: 'Talks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re: charging N86 with USB cable Hi Stephen, Thanks for that clarification and apologies to Evan for the mis-information. Best wishes, Brian. -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar Sent: 01 September 2010 18:15 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re: charging N86 with USB cable Again to people the n86 doesn't use a mini USB cable. It uses a micro USB plug. A mini plug is to big. So if you are going to tell someone what type of cable to look for. It is a micro and not mini as far as the end that goes in the phone. Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader. Signed by: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re: charging N86 with USB cable From: "Brian Campbell" <brian.campb...@ukonline.co.uk> Date: 01/09/2010 11:54 AM Hi Evan, I have an N86 and I also own the type of charger you mentioned. I have never used it to charge the phone as I have always used the charger that came with the phone. But I, like you, had assumed that it would be possible to use the IPod-type charger as well, particularly, perhaps, when travelling. What I have noticed is that the mini USB plug on the N86 is quite fragile (much more delicate-feeling than mini USB's on other devices I have come across). Even when using the charger supplied with the N86 my phone occasionally doesn't start charging and I have to reconnect the cable. My thought is that, when using the data cable with the IPod-type plug, you might have to be quite careful that it is properly seated. Just a thought. Best wishes, Brian. -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Evan Silver Sent: 31 August 2010 00:06 To: 'Talks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re: charging N86 with USB cable Yes. That is exactly the kind of charger I am talking about. I understand that it is recommended to use the charger that is included in the phone package. I am wondering however, if these types of generic USB AC wall adapters can deliver either a lesser voltage or a greater voltage than would a standard USB port of a computer. I thought the USB standard is a standard that would need to be adhered to in order to work with a variety of devices. Thanks again. Evan -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Brad Keller Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:43 AM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: [UCE] Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable I know the type of charger you are talking about, the end that plugs into the wall looks basically like any other charger but instead of having a fixed cord with a fixed type of plug at the other end there is a USB port like the ones on the pc on one side of the block thtat plugs into the wall so all you have to do is plug a standard USB cable into it. The problem still could be as many people have suggested of not the correct charging rate for the phone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Silver" <e...@evansilver.com> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable What I would like to emphasize in my situation, is that I am indeed using the included Nokia micro USB data/sync cable; This is the same exact cable I use to connect my phone to a USB port of my PC for both charging and synchronizing with PC suite. The only difference is that I would like to occasionally use an after-market AC adapter which simply has a USB port to plug in the Nokia Data/sync cable to charge the phone. This is useful as a secondary charging method when I travel, and I do not want to bring a bunch of adapters. I can just bring the appropriate cables and the one single AC wall wart with the USB port. I was undr the impression that this is a very common method for charging devices which use a USB port to charge from a computer; instead we just cut out the computer as a middle-man and plug straight into the electrical outlet in the wall. Like I said, this works just fine with my iPod and Book Sense. Thanks again for any ideas. -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Hussein Patwa Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:54 PM To: 'Talks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable I'll grant that this is one area where the iPhone has it right - no separate charger, just a cable which either plugs into the charger or the computer. But yes, I concur that using the included accessories is the best policy. Under or over volting the phone can and will have undesirable results. _______________________________________ Have a pleasant day, Kind Regards and Best Wishes, Hussein. Hussein Patwa Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa Skype: patwaspotterfan2 GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter Web: www.patwanet.co.uk My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks- > boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar > Sent: 29 August 2010 22:34 > To: Talks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable > > Yes when you plug it in like that, make sure that it says charging. If > it doesn't say charging! Then this means that the power plug isn't > putting out > the correct current for the phone to detect it should be charging. At > that point, you can either get a different USB power plug or just use > what is included with the phone. > > Signed: Stephen Giggar > Skype: dr-phone. > > Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. > No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> > To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 1:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable > > > > Is there something special? Yes, I would just avoid using it with > > your cell phone, since you already have an approved ac-to-USB > > charging cable. > > > > Dave > > > > Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, > > California > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Evan Silver" <e...@evansilver.com> > > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> > > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 11:32 > > Subject: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable > > > > > > Hi. > > > > I successfully and regularly charge my Nokia N86 with the included > > micro USB AC adapter plugged into a wall outlet and the included > > micro USB data cable plugged into a USB port of my computer. > > However, when I use the same included data cable and plug it into a > > a wall adapter which has a standard > > USB port for charging; the phone will not charge. Infact, the phone will > > power itself on when I plug it in and seemingly drain the battery > > even faster than if it were not plugged in. By the way, I use this > > same USB AC adapter to plug in an iPod data cable and a mini USB > > cable to charge a Book Sense; these both work fine. Is there > > something special I should be doing > > to charge my N86 when using the data cable with an AC adapter like this? > > Thanks. > > > > Evan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talks mailing list > > Talks@talksusers.com > > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. > > http://www.talknav.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talks mailing list > > Talks@talksusers.com > > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. > > http://www.talknav.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. > http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/