Hi Stephen,

Thanks for that clarification and apologies to Evan for the mis-information.

Best wishes,
Brian.

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
Sent: 01 September 2010 18:15
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re: charging N86 with USB cable

Again to people the n86 doesn't use a mini USB cable. It uses a micro USB
plug. A mini plug is to big. So if you are going to tell someone what type
of cable to look for. It is a micro and not mini as far as the end that goes
in the phone.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
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-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re:  charging N86 with USB cable
From: "Brian Campbell" <brian.campb...@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: 01/09/2010 11:54 AM

Hi Evan,

I have an N86 and I also own the type of charger you mentioned. I have never
used it to charge the phone as I have always used the charger that came with
the phone. But I, like you, had assumed that it would be possible to use the
IPod-type charger as well, particularly, perhaps, when travelling. What I
have noticed is that the mini USB plug on the N86 is quite fragile (much
more delicate-feeling than mini USB's on other devices I have come across).
Even when using the charger supplied with the N86 my phone occasionally
doesn't start charging and I have to reconnect the cable. My thought is
that, when using the data cable with the IPod-type plug, you might have to
be quite careful that it is properly seated. Just a thought.

Best wishes,
Brian.

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Evan Silver
Sent: 31 August 2010 00:06
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] [UCE] Re: charging N86 with USB cable

Yes.  That is exactly the kind of charger I am talking about.  I understand
that it is recommended to use the charger that is included in the phone
package.  I am wondering however, if these types of generic USB AC wall
adapters can deliver either a lesser voltage or a greater voltage than would
a standard USB port of a computer.  I thought the USB standard is a standard
that would need to be adhered to in order to work with a variety of devices.

Thanks again. 

Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brad Keller
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:43 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: [UCE] Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable

I know the type of charger you are talking about, the end that plugs into
the wall looks basically like any other charger but instead of having a
fixed cord with a fixed type of plug at the other end there is a USB port
like the ones on the pc on one side of the block thtat plugs into the wall
so all you have to do is plug a standard USB cable into it. The problem
still could be as many people have suggested of not the correct charging
rate for the phone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Silver" <e...@evansilver.com>
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable


What I would like to emphasize in my situation, is that I am indeed using
the included Nokia micro USB data/sync cable; This is the same exact cable I
use to connect my phone to a USB port of my PC for both charging and
synchronizing with PC suite.  The only difference is that I would like to
occasionally use an after-market AC adapter which simply has a USB port to
plug in the Nokia Data/sync cable to charge the phone.  This is useful as a
secondary charging method when I travel, and I do not want to bring a bunch
of adapters.  I can just bring the appropriate cables and the one single AC
wall wart with the USB port.

I was undr the impression that this is a very common method for charging
devices which use a USB port to charge from a computer; instead we just cut
out the computer as a middle-man and plug straight into the electrical
outlet in the wall.  Like I said, this works just fine with my iPod and Book
Sense.  Thanks again for any ideas.

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Hussein Patwa
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:54 PM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable

I'll grant that this is one area where the iPhone has it right - no separate
charger, just a cable which either plugs into the charger or the computer.

But yes, I concur that using the included accessories is the best policy.
Under or over volting the phone can and will have undesirable results.

_______________________________________
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Hussein.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks- 
> boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
> Sent: 29 August 2010 22:34
> To: Talks Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable
>
> Yes when you plug it in like that, make sure that it says charging. If 
> it doesn't say charging! Then this means that the power plug isn't 
> putting
out
> the correct current for the phone to detect it should be charging. At 
> that point, you can either get a different USB power plug or just use 
> what is included with the phone.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable
>
>
> > Is there something special? Yes, I would just avoid using it with 
> > your cell phone, since you already have an approved ac-to-USB 
> > charging cable.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, 
> > California
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Evan Silver" <e...@evansilver.com>
> > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 11:32
> > Subject: [Talks] charging N86 with USB cable
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > I successfully and regularly charge my Nokia N86 with the included 
> > micro USB AC adapter plugged into a wall outlet and the included 
> > micro USB data cable plugged into a USB port of my computer.
> > However, when I use the same included data cable and plug it into a 
> > a wall adapter which has a
standard
> > USB port for charging; the phone will not charge.  Infact, the phone
will
> > power itself on when I plug it in and seemingly drain the battery 
> > even faster than if it were not plugged in.  By the way, I use this 
> > same USB AC adapter to plug in an iPod data cable and a mini USB 
> > cable to charge a Book Sense; these both work fine.  Is there 
> > something special I should be
doing
> > to charge my N86 when using the data cable with an AC adapter like this?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Evan
> >
> >
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