we've gone from most to many now still we are waiting for a list of these. memorizing the keystrokes for setting the region date and time can be made invalid at the next firmware upgrade, Every time I've purchased a new phone or formatted an existing model I have to wait for sighted help and with the newer phones it's more of a challenge as there are all these damn set-up screens and wizards. Before it was just region, date and time. While you are getting past all the wizards text messages come in from nokia and service provider as soon as region date and time are set and wow do they distract borrowed eyes. some phones give the show or cancel screen some now do not. And now with touch keys coming in to the picture sighted help want to move the arrow keys themselves as they say "you don't stay on anything long enough for me to read it." So perhaps with some older models running old firmware you may be able to get the phone ready to install talks but most if not all totally blind users require sighted assistance to get their phone useable.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Keller" <keller...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] Suggestion: allow one to try voices


I don't mean what he wants to do is possible but installing Talks without
sighted help is possible with many phones.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Stone" <alex.st...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:21 AM
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Brad, how d 'you get talks to do this then?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brad Keller
Sent: 02 September 2010 13:23
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Suggestion: allow one to try voices

This is already possible with most phones.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net>
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Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:52 AM
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I would like to see the talks installer open the system clock and turn on
the auto time update feature.  Then you could buy a new phone and not
require sighted help.  it would have to check if a sim card were present
but it does so for the sim license. When I get sighted help now to set time
and date I just get them to tell me when I am at the main screen skipping
the time and date  as once you get into clock and settings and enable auto
time update then press softkey1 twice it's done it could even use the
positioning servers to set the country and region. It would just be nice to know that all you had to do was click on the talks installer. hopefully it
will happen in the not to distant future.  Remember the days when talks
would mute during all calls and to get this fixed became one of my hobby
horses. Now to be able to install talks independently of sighted assistance would be extremely useful for many blind people who live alone and may only
have visits from a couple of sighted people in a week.
Bernard Hemmings
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----- Original Message ----- From: <soonlee....@gmail.com>
To: <lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com>; <talks@talksusers.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] Suggestion: allow one to try voices



I think other voices need 2have some impvoovemens especially reading
symbols. I realise that vocalizers can't read symbols such as smily face
and sad face.
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From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Talks] Suggestion: allow one to try voices
Date: 02nd September 2010 6:54 PM

I love that idea.  I'd really like to hear what the other voices sound
like
and would consider buying one if I liked it better than the standard.

Lois
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth" <christopher...@googlemail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:24 AM
Subject: [Talks] Suggestion: allow one to try voices


Hello all.
I think a brilliant improvement on Talks is once a license has been
activated Talks could still let you try the other voices, even though it
may only work for ten minutes. At least then the user can decide if they
wish to purchase the voice or not. At the minute once we are licensed we
are locked to that voice.
What do you think?
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