I think is much more simpler than said you. Related to King George Island: Firstly, the unclassified value is used also to linking with hamlets according Key:highway. Due the settlements of Fildes Peninsula are in the lowet limit of hamlet/village (supposing these are the correct values), then is easily to discard tertiary value.
Next, the wiki suggest to choose unclassified than tertiary for quieter linking roads. Until the moment, most people agree the all roads of Fildes Peninsula are quieter, then another reason to discard tertiary value. Tertiary inside urban context that cited by you, refers explicitly to bigger settlements. This does not meaning you need to linking all relevant POIs with a tertiary, but they can be found typically in streets with tertiary or higher classification. Further, in Villa Las Estrellas de most of POIs are only accessible by footways. Fildes Peninsula have only near 100 inhabitants. There is no a practical difference if the other research stations are joined with Villa Las Estrellas or a little further. I think this is the most common interpretation for Fildes Peninsula, used also by the people who gave their opinion outside the mailing list. Your approach are too relativistic. Regards. ________________________________ De: Fernando Trebien <fernando.treb...@gmail.com> Enviado: domingo, 28 de abril de 2024 16:44 Para: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org> Asunto: Re: [Tagging] Highway classification in Antarctica On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 at 02:13, Juan Pablo Tolosa Sanzana <jptolosanz...@outlook.cl> wrote: > I do not understand your petition Put concretely: 1. Are Villa Las Estrellas, Bellingshausen Station, Great Wall Station and Artigas Base considered settlements in OSM? Should they be considered to have population=0? 2. If they are settlements, should they be mapped as place=hamlet according to the definitions in the wiki? 3. If they are hamlets, shouldn't the main routes connecting them be mapped as highway=tertiary, based on the definitions in the wiki? [1] 3.1. Is a minimum road length required, or is it sufficient that the settlements are disjoint? 4. Shouldn't roads on the Fildes Peninsula be given a higher classification if they serve important regional functions, similar to how roads in other sparsely populated regions are being classified in practice? The wiki says that the physical characteristics of different types of highway=* can vary drastically between different regions of the planet, and that one should assign highway=trunk to the road of highest importance in a region, does this sort of adjustment only apply to the highest highway levels (highway=trunk and highway=primary)? 5. Considering the importance of the South Pole Traverse, shouldn't it be highway=secondary or higher if it is the most important regional route of the whole continent? What factors justify a lower classification: poor infrastructure, harsh conditions, low population, settlement type (value of place=*), or some other reason? For point #5, maybe the South Pole Traverse can be compared to the Tibbitt to Contwoyto Winter Road in Canada,[1] which is mapped as highway=secondary despite having no nearby settlements apart from the small MacKay Lake Lodge midway. It is the longest ice road in the world, covering about 500 km connecting Yellowknife to some diamond mines every winter for two months, 85% of the route is on frozen lakes. If highway=secondary is appropriate in this case, why shouldn't it be for the South Pole Traverse? For point #4, I found several practical examples from regions like Norway, Iceland and Canada, where small villages with very low population counts are served by highway=secondary or highway=primary. I'm sharing these below as they were only discussed in changeset comments: - In Norway: Gamvik and Fredvang are small villages of about 200 people served by highway=secondary - In Iceland: Flateyri and Tálknafjörður are small villages of about 220 people served by highway=primary, and Hjalteyri is a hamlet of 37 people served by highway=secondary - In the Faroe Islands: Tjørnuvík and Kunoy are small villages of about 65 people served by highway=secondary - In Canada: Whatì and Tulita are villages of about 500 people served by highway=secondary and highway=primary respectively - In Alaska: Eagle is a small village of 145 people served by highway=primary and Teller is village of 268 people served by highway=secondary - In Russia: Varzuga is a village of 350 people and Yamburg is a small village of 100, both served by highway=secondary Gamvik: 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