Feb 13, 2023, 20:14 by fl.infosrese...@gmail.com:

> Hi,
>
> Le lun. 13 févr. 2023 à 14:11, Andy Townsend <> ajt1...@gmail.com> > a écrit :
>
>>
>> > By the way, I saw some changes leading to x10 contribution      rates and 
>> > be criticized as disrupting longstanding practices or      established 
>> > tagging.
>>
>>
>> An actual example would be really useful here.
>>
>>
> Here are some, very specific tagging but whatever:
> * Back to 2013, replacing power=station and power=sub_station by 
> power=substation and power=plant
> Respectively 40000 + 110000 in 5 years (30k/year) versus 500000 + 70000 in 8 
> years (71k/year) => x2.3
>
Have you compared increase in activity with change in OSM activity in general
or other unrelated object types where no such changes happened?
For example other power network tagging where no such proposal happened
or happened at a different time?

It seems dubious to attribute that change solely to this deprecation.

More likely seems that whatever reason caused greater interest resulted in the
increased mapping activity and tagging proposals.
Not that tagging proposals resulted in greater activity.

Is it possible that change in tag use was result of imports?

>
> * In 2018, replacement of voltage-high/voltage-low by 
> voltage:primary/voltage:secondary
> Respectively 6200 + 4600 in 8 years (1350/year) versus 110000+95000 in 5 
> years (41k/year) => x30
>
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/voltage%3Aprimary#chronology has clear
sign of import/bot edits

no idea why you would attribute that to tagging proposal

>
> * In 2021, replacement of tower:type=branch by line_management=branch or 
> split or cross
> Respectively 3600 in 7 years (515/year) versus 22030 in 2 years (11k/year) => 
> x21
>
here using tower:type was a clear mistake, so making tagging this detail more 
acceptable
could have a good effects.

Though not sure had this tag change had any serious opposition.

> Regarding the valuable point you make on tagging meta data making osm tags 
> invisible for common users, I wonder why we are busy with writing readable 
> proposals and then stuck on updating manually every toolchain with the same 
> information.
>
because various tool do different things with OSM data

(though area data type for example would help, see
https://github.com/osmlab/osm-data-model/discussions/9
https://github.com/osmlab/osm-data-model/issues/44 )

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