What I've been told (and someone showed me the law to back it up) is that apparently in Texas, IF there is a sidewalk, you are not allowed to walk in the roadway.
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 4:42 PM Ivo Reano <reano...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are you saying that in Texas you can't walk on a street that doesn't have > a sidewalk? > Only in a city environment or also in a non-city environment? > Or in Texas if you're on foot you're going nowhere? > Definitely not human! > > > Il giorno dom 18 dic 2022 alle ore 22:31 Brian M. Sperlongano < > zelonew...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > >> Hi, >> >> The tagging that I cited was from Texas in the USA. In that location, it >> is illegal to walk in the roadway (where the cars go), but there was a >> separate sidewalk where pedestrians are supposed to walk. However, my >> software works globally so I'm trying to understand how that >> `sidewalk=separate` + `foot=no` combination should be interpreted on a >> global basis, or if I should just ignore those combinations as a tagging >> error. >> >> So the situation is: >> 1. There is a sidewalk, and it's mapped separately >> 2. The road is tagged sidewalk=separate + foot=no >> 3. It's illegal to walk in the road itself because there is a sidewalk >> (state law in that area) >> >> On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 4:22 PM Ivo Reano <reano...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't know in your area if all pedestrians who use the streets just >>> because they don't have a car are punished. >>> In Italy, only motorways and some major traffic routes are formally >>> "forbidden" to pedestrian transit. >>> If I found a foot=yes on a street, simply to indicate that one should >>> not walk in the middle of the street, I would delete that tag (and send a >>> message to the user asking what he meant). >>> It seems obvious to me that if I walk on a road I keep to the left >>> (excuse non-Anglo-Saxons, but this is the preferred direction for >>> pedestrians on driveways in the rest of the world). >>> While if I'm on a road with no traffic (not flat) I mostly walk on the >>> downhill side. >>> In short: if there isn't a sidewalk, and the street isn't reserved for >>> vehicles (but where do you live?) foot=no it seems absurd to me, or rather >>> wrong. >>> >>> Ivo, Jrachi >>> >>> Il giorno dom 18 dic 2022 alle ore 22:05 <cyton_...@web.de> ha scritto: >>> >>>> Yes, only if the local legislation infers that pedestrians have to use >>>> a (usually car) road-accompanying sidewalk. >>>> >>>> Also, your project reminds me of wandrer.earth, where craig also >>>> introduced a way for running to track ran ways, not only for cyclists. >>>> Though i only use it for cycling. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit WEB.DE Mail >>>> gesendet. >>>> Am 18.12.22, 21:47 schrieb "Brian M. Sperlongano" <zelonew...@gmail.com >>>> >: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Cyton. >>>>> >>>>> Just to be clear, I'm only talking about automobile roads - >>>>> highway=trunk/primary/secondary/tertiary/unclassified/residential. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 3:41 PM <cyton_...@web.de> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If and only if there is a separately mapped sidewalk. >>>>>> Sidewalk=separate means there needs to be such a way. >>>>>> However i would tag foot=use_sidepath, which means the same as >>>>>> foot=no but also indicates the existence of a separate way usable for >>>>>> routing. >>>>>> And only if the highway is a streets centerline, not a cycleway or >>>>>> other. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cyton >>>>>> Am 18.12.22, 21:32 schrieb "Brian M. Sperlongano" < >>>>>> zelonew...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am the author of a data consumer which generates a list of streets >>>>>>> that are accessible to walkers and joggers. The idea is that a user >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> have a map of the streets in their town and can challenge themselves to >>>>>>> walk/jog down every street, and they can look at statistics on which >>>>>>> streets they've completed. I use a 25-meter rule, so if a user can walk >>>>>>> along the shoulder, or on a sidewalk/pavement, or in the verge, that's >>>>>>> acceptable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently came across an unexpected tagging combination and I would >>>>>>> like to understand how folks in various places would interpret this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> highway=<whatever> >>>>>>> foot=no >>>>>>> sidewalk=separate >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my software's logic, I've made the assumption that foot=* applies >>>>>>> to "the whole of the road" including the roadway, shoulders, verge, >>>>>>> sidewalks, and so forth and thus excluded any roads that include that >>>>>>> tag, >>>>>>> regardless of other tagging. I came to understand that this tagging was >>>>>>> used by a mapper to indicate that "pedestrians are not allowed on the >>>>>>> roadway, however, they are allowed on the sidewalk" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would folks regard that as accurate data modeling? 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