2022-12-01 23:37 skrev Minh Nguyen:
Vào lúc 02:08 2022-12-01, Volker Schmidt đã viết:
This proposal is incorrectly giving the impression that it is in the
spirit of the crossing:markings tag.
This tag was meant to complement and refine the existing tagging of
crossings in some cases, but certainly not to replace, wholesale the
"crossing" key
The crossing:markings key describes the painting on the road surface,
not the legal situation for the traffic participants, and it also
leaves out the vertical signals (which BTW here in Italy have
precedence over the horizontal signs in case of conflict)
The logical analogue to the successful crossing:markings=* proposal
would be a proposal for a crossing:signals=* key that introduces
options beyond what mappers can already express (in a Babelesque
manner) using the various crossing=* tags -- without impinging on the
entrenched interests behind crossing=zebra/uncontrolled/marked.
I'm working on such a proposal, in part to close a gap that mappers in
my region experience acutely. [1] Unfortunately, I didn't manage to
complete it before this more aggressive proposal went to an RfC. I
just hope this proposed deprecation doesn't poison the well for
crossing:signals=* once it's ready. The original 2019 proposal for
crossing:signals=* made the same mistake of touching the sensitive
crossing=* key.
Also what is the meaning of crossing=no?
crossing=no is for where the road geometry etc. would suggest a
pedestrian crossing but there isn't one. Some jurisdictions have
standard signs for this situation. It's probably more common in
regions where there are laws against jaywalking. If we're really
serious about deprecating crossing=*, then a more systematized tag
could be not:highway=crossing, now that the not:* prefix is fairly
well-established.
[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Crossing_signalization
Given the feedback and comments for this proposal, I don't intend on
moving to voting. I will support your proposal to only approve
crossing:signals (with extensions).
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