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> On 4 Nov 2022, at 08:21, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Using a tag for things other than the common meaning of that word (or word > group) is simply confusing and should be avoided. I may be misguided, but from reading dictionaries it seems to me that the terms “historic” and “historical” are often used interchangeably in “common use”, although formal use has distinctive criteria for both. The question about age is not very helpful, something can have happened yesterday and have ended an era and be historic today, on the other hand, something older than x will always be interesting for historians (because few objects of this time have survived, where x is some hundreds or thousands of years). Generally, the tag “historic” is about features that typically or frequently are historic, it isn’t a tag to exclude those features of the same kind that aren’t. It also integrates some religious features which are often neither old nor historic in another sense (unless you see religion as a whole as something of the past), wayside crosses and shrines for example, which are ranks 3 and 6 of all historic values, 260k objects (17%) alone. Memorials 313k (20%) may be new, but they are always referring to history. We do not judge memorials by their perceived significance, we consider all memorials historically significant enough for getting the tag. It would open Pandora’s box if we were to make differences between objects important for history / connected to important historical events, and others that we consider “old but not of historic relevance”. This is mostly subjective and not really measurable or verifiable, and we would not gain anything by formalizing such rules. People would see different things important and we would have pointless discussions or edit wars about relevance. What would we gain by restricting the use of the historic key more than it is now? Cheers Martin _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging