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> On 4 Nov 2022, at 08:21, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Using a tag for things other than the common meaning of that word (or word 
> group) is simply confusing and should be avoided.


I may be misguided, but from reading dictionaries it seems to me that the terms 
“historic” and “historical” are often used interchangeably in “common use”, 
although formal use has distinctive criteria for both.

The question about age is not very helpful, something can have happened 
yesterday and have ended an era and be historic today, on the other hand, 
something older than x will always be interesting for historians (because few 
objects of this time have survived, where x is some hundreds or thousands of 
years).

Generally, the tag “historic” is about features that typically or frequently 
are historic, it isn’t a tag to exclude those features of the same kind that 
aren’t. 
It also integrates some religious features which are often neither old nor 
historic in another sense (unless you see religion as a whole as something of 
the past), wayside crosses and shrines for example, which are ranks 3 and 6 of 
all historic values, 260k objects (17%) alone. Memorials 313k (20%) may be new, 
but they are always referring to history. We do not judge memorials by their 
perceived significance, we consider all memorials historically significant 
enough for getting the tag.

It would open Pandora’s box if we were to make differences between objects 
important for history / connected to important historical events, and others 
that we consider “old but not of historic relevance”. This is mostly subjective 
and not really measurable or verifiable, and we would not gain anything by 
formalizing such rules. People would see different things important and we 
would have pointless discussions or edit wars about relevance.

What would we gain by restricting the use of the historic key more than it is 
now?

Cheers Martin 
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