" when there is no key on the zone what does the zone convey?" It conveys that the area of land is primarily used for selling goods (landuse=retail).
This is useful because retail areas, which include shops and restaurants, are high-traffic destinations, which many map users will be interested in visiting. This is used by many database users to render the area differently, e.g. openstreetmap-carto - Note that many commercial map services also highlight retail areas in a different color. Commercial land use is also likely to include businesses which are sometimes destinations, so they are of greater interest to a general map user than an area of residential land, industrial land, or farmland. Database users can also eventually use this data to compare the amount of land used for retail, industrial and residential land vs other uses, once it is fully mapped. On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 12:56 PM Evan Carroll <m...@evancarroll.com> wrote: > That they exist isn't the question. I acknowledged this. It doesn't make > sense why they should. The reason farmland exists is, > > * The presence of land alone is not mappable, IE., farmland unlike > Commercial and Retail Zones can not be inferred by buildings. > * Farmland gives you the ability to add name=*; barrier=*; crop=*, IE., it > carries other useful information. You need something to carry a tag. > > * In the case of landuse=retail it can carry name=*; operator=* -- when it > does my objection is dropped entirely. In fact, you make OSM better by > putting polgyons together that say the name of the shopping centre you're > in. However, when there is no key on the zone what does the zone convey? > The wiki is entirely silent on this. It satisfied some highly subjective > mapping of 0 or more buildings which have an unspecified variable percent > of compliance with the landuse? > * In the case of landuse=retail it can be inferred and recreated with > _more precision_ automatically by the buildings it contains. That is to > say, in the best case when it's 100% correct, it's 100% redundant. > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 2:30 PM Clifford Snow <cliff...@snowandsnow.us> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 12:05 PM Evan Carroll <m...@evancarroll.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> For all of these cases, when "Zone" isn't established by law I see no >>> value. I think this would be a good place to start. But I'm also interested >>> in knowing Lyft's motivations behinds these Zones and I assume they're on >>> the list or someone can answer for it. If unnamed, this seems like a more >>> error-prone way to do Spatial Clustering, and clustering is usually done >>> for a reason, which I don't see in the wiki (unless I'm missing something). >>> >> >> Houston has hundreds of landuse polygons already. According to the wiki >> [1], landuse describes what area is being used for. It does not say >> anywhere that we should map city zones. For example, landuse=farmland >> describes an area used for farming where a county landuse zone might >> include the buildings on the property, in OSM we usually don't. Areas with >> houses are tagged as landuse-residential. Houston has many of these areas. >> >> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Land_use >> >> As Andy suggested, contact the mapper with your concerns. I've have had >> good luck dealing with Lyft in the past and appreciate their edits in my >> area. >> >> Best, >> Clifford >> >> -- >> @osm_washington >> www.snowandsnow.us >> OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > > -- > In the event this email pertains to Real Estate, Texas law > <https://texreg.sos.state.tx.us/public/readtac$ext.TacPage?sl=R&app=9&p_dir=&p_rloc=&p_tloc=&p_ploc=&pg=1&p_tac=&ti=22&pt=23&ch=531&rl=20> > requires all license holders provide to prospective clients the following > forms: Information About Brokerage Services > <http://docs.evancarroll.com/realestate/iabs.pdf>, Consumer Protection > Notice > <https://www.trec.texas.gov/sites/default/files/pdf-forms/CN%201-2.pdf>. > My TREC license number is 610570 > <https://www.trec.texas.gov/apps/license-holder-search/?detail_id=881377951> > and my sponsoring broker is NB Elite Realty LLC. > > -- > Evan Carroll - m...@evancarroll.com > System Lord of the Internets > web: http://www.evancarroll.com > ph: 281.901.0011 <+1-281-901-0011> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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