Dear all,

Hungerburg wrote Mon Sep 26 2022 22:19:03 GMT+0200

Nearly two weeks passed since the RfC started. Quite some changes have
happened. I’d like to invite a second reading, to help weed out
remaining problems.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=scramble

"use of hands is required" is not defined at all, thus stays fully
subjective: My sister needs hands where I do not even start to think
about using hands, most people living in German cities will use hands
where people from rural areas of Peru's Andes won't because their daily
routine ways differ so much.
→ This massively reduces the added value of highway=scramble and invites
for edit wars. I posted some definition possibilities in my mail of
2022-09-20, 17:00



scramble=grade* is mentioned in the current proposal. The grades
definition posted earlier in this thread tells

On grade 2 and 3 scrambles it’s worthwhile taking a rope at least 30m
long, some eight-foot slings, HMS karabiners and maybe a very small
rack, half a dozen large nuts and hexes at most.

The proposal excludes any scrambles using equipment, so forbids all
scrambles of grades 2+3 to be tagged as highway=scramble. Thus, only
scramble=grade1 remains by definition, so it cannot add any information
and shall be removed from the proposal.

Regards,
Georg

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