I agree these are very common arrangements.

On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:46, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am not usually mapping this detail of parking fees, but from my
> understanding the above suggested tags would work and could be seen as
> covered by current state of tagging, no need for a proposal, just use it.
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/fee%3Aconditional#values
>

I agree, I wouldn't think it needs a proposal since I thought it's already
covered by the current :conditional and maxstay schemes.


> as a note, I believe we should "err on the safe side", i.e. better
> A)
> fee=yes
> fee:conditional = no @ maxstay < 3h
>
> than B)
> fee = no
> fee:conditional = yes @ maxstay > 3h
>
> I think I would ignore the maxstay==3h condition, ;-)
>

I agree, generally I think of these as paid parking, but with the exception
that if you stay for a short time it's free, as opposed to being free
parking but if you overstay the parking they charge you a fee (the latter
would be more like a fine for going over the limit, but rather this is
usually just a grace period for not needing to pay).

I've came to the same conclusion in the past where I tagged
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23024004#map=19/-33.79813/151.18415

Taginfo says 9 things tagged like this already
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/fee%3Aconditional=no%20(maxstay%3C2%20hours)
 +
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/fee%3Aconditional=no%20(maxstay%3C3%20hours)

This is also the syntax I suggested for the streetcomplete quest at
https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/102#issuecomment-687761605

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxstay recommends to always add a
unit (unlike maxspeed, maxheight, maxweight which all have default units)
and all the examples use expanded terms in English eg "hours" instead of
"h" or "hr". Any good data consumer would want to parse out all the
variants, so I wouldn't complain if you used "h" instead of "hours" but
would be nicer if there was only one way to tag it, so I'd prefer to stick
with the full term like on the wiki "hours".

Unless there is disagreement we can just add this example to the wiki.
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