On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 17:41 Volker Schmidt <vosc...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 22:16, Emvee via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org>
> wrote:
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I changed the crossing to the way we do it in many parts of Europe, i.e. a
> crossing node *and* a crossing way. This was described as an option on
> the highway=crossing wiki page until it was changed on 07:52, 3 October
> 2020by user Emvee <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Emvee> by
> addng the diagram and its description.
> If you don't like it, please change it back - I used it in place of a
> longish explanation.
> (I also moved the two stops away from the end nodes of the ways as the tag
> direction=forward|backward is better not placed on a node that connects two
> ways )
>

Both of those are better, thanks!

The routers that I use for testing seem to be aware of crossings without
crossing nodes, so I too often forget to tag them.

Having the STOP signs tagged as I did works, since 'direction=forward'
means 'when approaching this node on the forward direction of any
connecting way', but your method is more robust against inadvertently
reversing one way and not the other.

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> This recent wiki change by Emvee
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Emvee> is in my view not
> helpful, or even misleading, as it does discourage a wide-spread tagging
> practice (if we like this or not is a different question, but it's
> established tagging, and the wiki is supposed to describe the establsihed
> methods of tagging)
>

I'm posting from a smartphone, so I'm not in a good position to review the
change log. I'll let you and Emvee sort it out.

>
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