First example: Superrelation GR5 (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4580796) consists of the following 8 relation members:
GR 5 Netherlands (9176775) GR 5 Belgium, Flanders (3121667) GR 5 Belgium, Wallonia (3121668) GR 5 Luxembourg (2790499) GR 5 Lorraine (2029679) GR 5 Vosges (1956165) GR 5 Jura (6095322) GR 5 Alpes Côte d'Azur (2704286) Similar how Kevin Kenny organised the Long Path (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/919642), they are split up by geographic region. In the case of the Long Path, it's by county. Peter, would you find this acceptable? Do you want to try reach some consensus on the splitting? Do you want to go even further and try to align the punctuation? (we use comma, dash, brackets etc...). I think it should be at least possible to find a consensus between Belgium and The Netherlands on that. Second example: Superrelation Monte Rosa Tour (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10353523) is split up in stages. As far as I can tell, this relation is split up in daily stages, each time starting and ending at a mountain hut. Monte Rosa tour stage 1 (958608) Monte Rosa tour stage 2 (9214075) Monte Rosa tour stage 3 (9234148) Monte Rosa tour stage 4 (9234975) Monte Rosa tour stage 5 (9235092) Monte Rosa tour stage 6 (9237283) Monte Rosa tour stage 7 (9242908) Monte Rosa tour stage 8 (9243123) Monte Rosa tour stage 9 (9243530) Monte Rosa tour stage 10 (9231294) Is it possible that this information is actually copyright protected, if it's copied from a guidebook? Nevertheless, it's useful information. Peter, would you want to move this "stage x" information in a separate tag? On Sat, 23 May 2020 20:37:39 +0200, Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com> wrote: > For now, I just want an alternative for the section/segment/leg numbers or > refs that are often in the name tag now. > They are there to get neat ordered lists in tools and applications. That > seems to work fine, but it abuses the name tag, which I am told is a > problem for searching routines. A name tag should contain a proper name as > found on the street, and nothing else, that's the short version of some > very long rants I have encountered... > > At the moment, I move comments, descriptions, distance and trail refs to > the appropriate tags. > From-via-to information I copy to the from, via and to tags. > I just need a nice and intuitive tag to copy the ordering information to. > > Vr gr Peter Elderson > > > Op za 23 mei 2020 om 19:59 schreef Jo <winfi...@gmail.com>: > > > oh, I'm mapping public transport too much. I actually did mean to write > > superroute. > > > > Jo > > > > On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 7:44 PM Yves <yve...@mailbox.org> wrote: > > > >> While the original question was about a good tag to record the section > >> number, whick look like a reference, I would be tempted to answer Jo that > >> to know which country you're in, you should look at Your OSM Database! > >> Joke aside, such a cross border route makes a good candidate for a super > >> route. > >> Yves > >> > >> Le 23 mai 2020 18:49:31 GMT+02:00, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >>> > >>> So in the case of a route that passes through The Netherlands, Belgium > >>> and France, the part in The Netherlands and Flanders will have the same > >>> name (in Dutch)? And the parts in Wallonia and France will have the same > >>> name as well, but in French instead? No indication which country/region > >>> they are passing through? > >>> > >>> Jo > >>> > >>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 6:42 PM Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hold on to your hat.... In the name tag I will store...The Name Of The > >>>> Route! > >>>> > >>>> Op za 23 mei 2020 om 18:18 schreef Jo <winfi...@gmail.com>: > >>>> > >>>>> In the end, what will be left in the name tag exactly? > >>>>> > >>>>> Polyglot > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 5:53 PM Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I am trying to improve on the name-tag mess in the many hiking/foot > >>>>>> routes in Nederland. All kinds of information is packed in those > >>>>>> names. I > >>>>>> am not doing any cleaning (yet) until all this information can be > >>>>>> stored in > >>>>>> proper tags and is handled or scheduled by significant renderers/data > >>>>>> users/tools. There must be reasons for this (ab)use, because it is > >>>>>> done all > >>>>>> over the globe. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It's very common to store <from>-<to> and sometimes <via> in the name > >>>>>> tag. That's an easy one: we have from=*, via=*, to=*. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sometimes a complete description, a comment or a note (.e.g. about a > >>>>>> temporary detour) is added to the name. Easy: we have description=, > >>>>>> note=*, > >>>>>> comment=*. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A ref in the name: store in ref=*. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Another item is *section number*. This is often used when the route > >>>>>> is split in sections, often according to the sectioning given by the > >>>>>> operator/website. So firstly it's a sort of reference, secondly its an > >>>>>> ordering and sorting mechanism. > >>>>>> Sometimes sections have their own name. I see that a lot in > >>>>>> international (super)routes. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Any ideas how to do this without (ab)using the name tag? 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