On 22/05/2020 15:55, Daniel Westergren wrote:
And there actually seems to be a pull request finally solving the
paved/unpaved rendering that was opened 7 years ago?!?
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/4137
If that makes it to the default map it will certainly help people to
tag surface, because they will see that it makes sense.
I'm sure you didn't mean it to sound like it, but this does read
somewhat as if rendering "surface" on paths is somehow "obvious" and
"easy", and it's an "oversight" that the OSM Carto folks haven't been
doing it since basically forever.
It's not - I think that pnorman's comment of
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3399#issuecomment-596656115
still applies:
> I'm of the opinion that the only way we can get the cartographic
"space" to render unpaved surfaces is to drop something else, like
access restriction rendering.
I think that there's another problem with the standard style as well -
aside from surface rendering it's hugely biased towards urban centres.
Looking at https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/53.9023/-0.8856 you
can't see any paths at all at that zoom level due to the "Central
European Graveyard problem" - compare with
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=13&lat=53.9006&lon=-0.8795
to see what you're missing.
What we need are concrete suggestions of how to get there from here,
(and Ture Pålsson's mail of
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-May/052747.html
is exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for).
Adding a sane surface rendering in addition to everything else is hard -
I've not managed it across the board at https://map.atownsend.org.uk
although that is influenced by sac_scale, trail_visibility and width.
All suggestions gratefully received, but what's needed some code that
people can play with and see what the effect is on various areas and
different zoom levels - not just emails to the tagging list*.
Best Regards,
Andy
* yes, I do realise the irony of "yet another email to the tagging list"!
75 Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved
58 Remove non-prefixed versions of 'contact:' scheme
49 RFC ele:regional
42 relations & paths
35 Doorzone bicycle lanes
34 Permanent ID/URI --- off topic email
28 Feature Proposal - RFC - Recreational route relation roles
27 Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of
trails in OSM
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