Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 19:20, Phake Nick <c933...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > What you said doesn't make sense. > The existence of a space within the word doesn't inherently make them > separateable. > Like for the tag amenity=charging_station, do you think the space mean ot > make sense to change the tagging scheme into amenity=station + > station=charging ? > It depends on what your definition of station is. > > Your interpretation on public transit service is incorrect. > When you board a plane from London to Paris, you didn't fly to Paris > because they told us they would fly to Paris. You're going to Paris because > you have expressed interest in going to Paris. Same with rideshareing or > other rented mobility services. > You're lucky enough to take on planes you define your own destination first. "Going to Paris" doesn't mean the same for a taxicab and for a plane. Even in ridesharing, destination is given by passengers and driver doesn't know it before meeting them (face to face or with an app, same actually). You don't define the destination reached by plane, by train or by bus. This is the difference I make. > > >> We agree on that particular point. >> Neverthess that doesn't make a second value of amentiy legit. >> OSM would only have one key grouping all possible values if it was >> relevant. >> > > I am not aware of such requirement on value ever existing in OSM. > This was actual irony. Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 20:45, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> a écrit : > > Neverthess that doesn't make a second value of amentiy legit. > > Why? > Both have taxi service in common but the vehicle is different (and implies really different experiences indeed) amenity=* represents the taxi service and I find relevant to describe the different vehicle in another key. > OSM would only have one key grouping all possible values if it was > relevant. > > Why? > If you accept to merge similarities and differences in values you don't need different keys. Who need operator key for instance? amenity=taxi_with_cars_operated_by_Acompany amenity=taxi_with_motorbikes_operated_by_anotherCompany Hey it's way different things, Acompany is really bad compared to anotherCompany. Finally, Paul, I find your point about taxonomy thinking interesting and will try to develop it a bit in future. Get me well, I don't intend to ban anyone from anything. Query tools are really important to consume data and my point wasn't to downgrade tagging readability in general (nor to encourage K9842=V2179). To me tourists and query tools users can only be the same persons at different time. I've never used overpass to locate myself in any train station, that's all. In proposal, arguing amenity=taxi/amenity=motorbike_taxi will better prevent errors than amenity=taxi + vehicle=* doesn't convince me : mappers are always able to confuse two services, whatever the tagging they use can be. That was my 2 cts, good night François
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