Hi Paul, Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 02:29, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > This isn't just about optimizing the number of tags used, it's about > aligning with > how most people's mental models work. And not just the mental models > of local mappers but also the mental models of tourists: locals don't refer > to maps as often as tourists do. > Tourists aren't supposed to refer to tags to know which kind of taxi service they can use. Renders, tools, apps are here to ease this for them. Are you aware of Google Maps data model when browsing it? Even local mappers can use tools focused on a specific topic which makes tagging less important to master to contribute. Nevertheless, we're are discussing about things like amenity=taxi + vehicle=* which doesn't sound that complex. Even common language using two words "motorcycle" and "taxi" could mean we have something to do with several keys. Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 06:38, Shawn K. Quinn <skqu...@rushpost.com> a écrit : > taxi=* is already used as an access tag, so I think taxi:type=* should > be considered instead. Perhaps amenity=taxi can default to motorcar if > there is no taxi:type=* tag. > Beware of :type disadvantages. Things like vehicle=* sounds better (or another word referring to vehicle used). Default to motorcar can lead to mistakes for consumers. It's more valuable to consider vehicle unknown if absent (and encourage mappers to explicitly define it) Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 08:01, Phake Nick <c933...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > "I pay a driver to take me where I want to with his vehicle" is something > that would also be true for any other public transit vehicles. > I respectably disagree regarding public transit: you're not asking them to take you where YOU want but if they actually go where THEY told us they will. Every word counts here. > Motorcycle taxi is different from 4-wheeled taxi because they provide a > different experience with different speed, charge different fare, have > different level of convenience, can access different area, and various > other factors. > We agree on that particular point. Neverthess that doesn't make a second value of amentiy legit. OSM would only have one key grouping all possible values if it was relevant. > In addition to them being different kind of services, for the purpose of > openstreetmap tagging, it's better to remember that a motorcycle taxi stand > would look quite different from a taxi stand, use the streetspace > differently, and thus mixing them together would also hurt any downstream > data user who might wish to understand the situation of 4-wheeled taxi > penetration in certain geographical area due to conflating the data with > others that aren't of the same type. They're often regulated by different > laws and face different operational restrictions also. > That could eventually be a point if all those differences were known precisely and described. There are many many kind of public transit stations but we're still calling them stations and platforms. All the best François
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