Voting on the proposal for place=refugee_site ends today or tomorrow, depending on your time zone.
Current vote is 11 oppose, 27 approve - currently below the percentage needed to be approved but close. -- Joseph Eisenberg On 3/12/20, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Voting is still open a few more days for place=refugee_site > > But I am still concerned about this claim: "For long-term refugee site > that are no longer under operation of the UNHCR or another > organization (other NGO, government, etc.) it is possible to use > instead or also the tag place=town or place=village." > > You cannot tag the same Openstreetmap database object with both > place=town and place=refugee_site - you would have to create 2 > separate nodes. > > -- Joseph Eisenberg > > On 3/3/20, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I do not believe the concerns and questions at the talk page have been >> adequately addressed >> >> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Refugee_Site_Location) >> >> While I appreciate the idea of mapping locations related to refugees, >> I do not think the proposed definition and tags wil work. >> >> The description includes too many possibilities: "A refugee site is a >> place that hosts refugee and/or IDP population and that is under >> operation of the UNHCR or another organization (other NGO, government >> agency, etc.). A refugee site can be a temporary site or a long term >> site." >> >> This could include a single building which which is operated by a >> local church and hosts a single refugee family from another country >> for a month or two. It could also include a huge semi-permanent >> settlement with thousands of people, shops, businesses, permanent >> structures and so on, which is nominally operated by a government >> agency but which actually functions as a town for many years. >> >> The definition needs to be changed so that it is clear what qualifies >> and what does not. >> >> Also, another new tag "refugee_site:for" is proposed with values >> "refugee" or "IDP." The second value is bad because it's a rare >> acronym for "internally displaced persons", and neither value is >> defined. Apparently "refugree" might only be used for people who have >> crossed a national border? >> >> There is also mention of additional tags "operational_status" and >> "official_status=unofficial" which are undefined. The second, >> official_status, had a proposal but that one was quite different >> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Official_status) >> >> And operational_status=* has no wiki page, and this proposal does not >> define it. >> >> For these reasons, the current version of the proposal should not be >> approved. >> >> I suggest improving the definition of the tags and making it very >> clear which new tags are being approved by the proposal. >> >> - Joseph Eisenberg >> >> On 3/2/20, Manon Viou <m_v...@cartong.org> wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> The proposed feature for refugee site location was posted for comment on >>> January 30 th. During February we have received several valuable >>> comments. >>> Thank you for your feedbacks! >>> >>> Your participation allowed us to improve our proposal in order to map >>> refugee site location. >>> >>> We would like now to start the Request for Voting, >>> >>> Please find below the proposal which is being put to vote : >>> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Refugee_Site_Location#Tagging >>> >>> This ends on 2020-02-17 >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Manon, >>> >>> [image: CartONG- Humanitarian mapping and information management] >>> >>> Manon Viou >>> >>> Coordinatrice projet Missing Maps >>> >>> [image: Email:] m_v...@cartong.org | [image: Skype:] manon.viou >>> [image: Phone:] +33 (0)4 79 26 28 82 | [image: Mobile:] +33 (0)7 >>> 83889839 >>> >>> [image: Address:] Chambéry, France - Lon: 05°55'24''N | Lat: 45°30'20''E >> > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
