On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:50 PM Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> > wrote: > > Honestly, there is, and it's as Paul and I have described - you put the > ref > > in the ref tag and leave the name tag blank. This is how it has been in > OSM > > since pretty much day one. If a newbie in Europe puts a ref in the name > tag, > > it gets stomped on pretty quickly. > > > > The reason it might seem otherwise in the States is that the TIGER import > > didn't populate the ref tag, just the name tag, and a lot of the TIGER > > import still hasn't been cleared up. So there's a bunch of TIGER-derived > > roads which have things like "name=County Road 23" (or Township Road, or > "Co > > Rd", or many other variations). > > OK, I'll add that to the things I look for. As I said, I'd been > retaining it only when it's the only name, and I never added any new > ways with that, merely refrained from repairing that case. > > It's encouraging that in this particular discussion, that's the only > detail you guys say I got wrong. 'ref' tag on the way for the > renderer; road route relation with detailed network and ref; never an > alt_name or name_1, etc. with a route reference. > > Oh, and a further corner case: Are we agreed that something like "Old > Route 7" has become a name? It's no longer a ref, because Route 7 is > now elsewhere. It appears on street signs like any other name, not on > a reference banner, and it's the 'addr:street' of the houses on it. > Eeeh, I'd generally suggest tagging that as noname=yes old_ref=US 7 (if the old route was a US route) to retain more information. Signing is pretty similar, too, some places will leave the old shields up and change the banner from a cardinal to OLD until the signs wear out as a wayfinder for folks with outdated maps. Much of the midwest, on nameless roads that have routes, just put something like "SH 33" or "Hwy 412" on the finger signs as a low-budget solution to posting a proper, potentially multicolor, die-cut, screen-printed shield and a double-ended arrow as is MUTCD standard for such a case. addr:street still goes with however the post finds it. It helps to know the local context quite a bit when trying to sort out how local authorities cheaped out on posting standard signs.
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