On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 16:29, marc marc <marc_marc_...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Le 06.01.20 à 04:19, Jarek Piórkowski a écrit : > > Comments most welcome! > > keep it simple ! > advanced stop box only use a cycleway=asl without relation > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway%3Dasl > a single node is not enought ?
Hi Marc, I wrote the following about cycleway=asl in the original message, do you have any further thoughts on these objections against using ASL node? "To my understanding, this is not the same as a cycleway=asl (advanced stop line, "bike box") in OSM as an ASL is _behind_ the stop line and behind the pedestrian crossing, and thus not really easily usable for left turns [from the way not tagged with ASL] - cyclists would have to cross the stream of pedestrians to get into the box. ... Looking for an alternatives to a relation, I came up with https://bin.piorkowski.ca/2019/possible_asl_node_tagging.png and described it as following: "I suppose something like this could work to avoid a relation, routers would then have to look for cycleway:asl=two_stage_left_turn a little to the right of where they'd like to make a left turn. ... Disadvantages: the portrayed distance to turn off to right is further than the actual distance; routers might well find it easier to find left turns as they would normally and then prioritize those with a bicycle_two_stage_left_turn relation ... frankly I don't really like that solution much, and the other editor contributing in the Slack thread thought it would be "misleading, since the box is on a way not actually involved in the turn"." Thanks, --Jarek _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
