Martin wrote:> IMHO no. We do not need tags of an is_in fashion for this, > we 
can model this universally by making use of implicit > spatial relationships 
(i.e. put the bike kitchen inside the community > centre or pub, or the other 
way round, according to our > interpretation of the situation)

Could you/someone explain how you can search for objects that form such spatial 
relationships?
I noted in another message in the thread that I am not aware of how to search 
for combined features, each tagged in a separate object (point/way/relation) 
close to oneanother.
Although that is in principle a separete issue from how to tag "ground truth", 
I think it is relevant.  And I am curious as to how such searches can be 
carried out. 

-- Regards / Kveðja / Hilsen Morten Lange 


    On Sunday, 18 August 2019, 23:22:05 CEST, Martin Koppenhoefer 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 

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On 18. Aug 2019, at 23:06, Morten Lange via Tagging <[email protected]> 
wrote:


I am skeptical as that makes finding them less straightforward, if you are 
looking for   [ a place where I can get my bicycle repaired or receive some 
help].


it will require you look for them explicitly or the app you are using would 
take them into account. On the other hand from my experience these aren’t 
places “to get your bicycle repaired”, they are rather places you can go to and 
hang out with other bicycle enthusiasts of a certain political orientation and 
repair your bike yourself.



Many potential users will not know about bicycle kitchens or that other 
community centres offer bicycle repairs.


again, these places around here don’t “offer bicycle repairs”, they offer 
enabling you to do the repairs yourself 
"
But I think they should be searchable also as somethings separate form the 
ordinary bicycle shop. Additional tags can do the trick.
For bicycle kitchens I guess 
      service:bicycle:diy:yes     might cover it. 


while it isn’t factually wrong, it isn’t useful as a distinction from forprofit 
places where you pay to use a space to adjust your bike




Here follow some new ideas that just popped out:

Perhaps add something like     shop:bicycle:type=bicycle_kitchen


yes, if it _is_ a kind of bicycle shop. An idea that is not universally shared.




Other values for that tag could be     with_pub    with_cafe    job_training    
in_community_centre


IMHO no. We do not need tags of an is_in fashion for this, we can model this 
universally by making use of implicit spatial relationships (i.e. put the bike 
kitchen inside the community centre or pub, or the other way round, according 
to our interpretation of the situation)

Cheers Martin 
  
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