Yup,
In fact there are no less than three of them in Oslo and one in Reykjavik (that
I know of).The preferred solution for those is I think to map two separate
nodes, one for the café and the other for the bicycle (repair) shop. Or better
a POI inside a way/house. The last option is what was suggested in a reply here
on the list.
Hmm.
But to make sure they are searcable as such combinations, perhaps do something
like this amenity=cafeservice:bicycle:repair=yes
and/or
service:bicycle:diy=yes
and for the other poi/way/relation
shop=bicycledescription=Also a café. See separate map point (POI)
I am not aware of how to search for shop=bicycle in/within/very_near
(amenity=cafe or amenity=pub )
-- Regards / Kveðja / Hilsen Morten Lange
On Wednesday, 7 August 2019, 22:25:27 CEST, Leif Rasmussen
<[email protected]> wrote:
Cafés^, not cages. Android swiping strikes again.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 10:19 PM Leif Rasmussen <[email protected]> wrote:
I've seen cages that are also bike shops, so whatever tagging solution we up
with should work with any type of shop.Leif Rasmussen
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 9:38 PM Morten Lange via Tagging
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I wonder how I should tag bicycle shops that are not shops in the traditional
"buy our products" sense.
A community-centre that is also offers bicycle repairs / is a bicycle repair
shop.Or a bicycle "shop" that primarily focuses on refurbishing disused
bikes.Or a community-centre or similar that provides job training for various
groups, and such training happens through running a bicycle repair service for
the public.
I have found a few such bicycle repair and maintenance "shops" on OSM. These
are the searches I have used in overpass-turbo.eu:
(shop=bicycle or service:bicycle:repair=yes) and
ownership=private_nonprofitorcommunity_centre=bicycle_maintenanceorservice:bicycle:repair=yes
and amenity=community_centre
Many of those that I described, to my eperience do not offer Do-it-yourself
(more on DIY below).
They still are something else than your "ordinary" bikeshop, and I think that
is significant to reflect in tagging.
So I wonder how best to tag those. My experience is that most of them are
non-profit.
My preliminary conclusion is to use this on the nodes I have mapped in Oslo and
elsewhere in Norway: shop=bicycle service:bicycle:repair=yes
ownership=private_nonprofit (or ownership=public_nonprofit)
Some additinional thoughts :
A.
If the place is a Do-it-yourself shop it should be tagged as such. Searching
for this tag and value I see the pair has been used quite a lot. For example
for bicycle kitchens. service:bicycle:dyi=yes.
B. Tagging primarily as a community centre?
Some might suggest to use amenity=community_centre combined with
community_centre=bicycle_maintenance
But then the community centre feature will overshadow the bikeshop aspect. (And
in current renderings the place would not pop up as a place where you can fix
your bicycle/tricycle)
I would like to have it the other way around, that is to emphasise the service
offered to the public, rather than type of establishment.
Is it OK to use community_centre=bicycle_maintenancetogether with
shop=bicycle ?
Any other comments? Could a single "freshly invented" value do the trick like
service:bicycle:repair=work_training
The downside is that if searching for the value =yes, those
nodes/ways/relations are not found.
Regards / Kveðja / Hilsen Morten Lange
P.S
Bicycle kitchens and bicycle librarier are somewhat different animals.
Searching the web for bicycle kitchen, bicycle library etc turns up quite a few
references.
But I could not find them on OSM.That is until I specifically searched in
overpass-turbo for
shop=bicycle and service:bicycle:diy=yes
Rome, Paris and Berlin are virtually peppered.
And for the case of the bicycle library .....Would this be a possibe way to tag
them service:bicycle:rental=library
?
-- Morten Lange, Oslo
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