This not always works. See traffic_sign:direction=* and traffic_signal:direction=* or crossing=marked in iD or all the "missions" you will not see implemented in StreetComplete and the impossibility of make it more scalable and customizable.
One person said here to a question about a reasonible good proposal of new tagging for schools and other educative centers: "Ask any two people on this list their opinion on any matter and you will get THREE opinions." Good luck with it. yopaseopor On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 9:05 PM Valor Naram <valin...@gmx.net> wrote: > > Editors won't (in general) implement tags in presets unless they're > widely used. Unless editors and carto support tags, they won't get widely > used, so editors and carto won't support them. Chicken and egg. > > Yes, you're right. But I was the author of "changing_table" and the guy > who lead it throw the proposal process and also Moderator of the discussion > and votes. And contacting all the editors was no problem and they > implemented "changing_table" and deleted "diaper" presets. See JSOM, > OSMand, Vespucci and also iD. My effort shows that working together with > different groups works. > > I would highly appreciate it when you give me a chance. In real life > people are revelling their secrets to me because they trust me and I give > them the feeling of being accepted as they are. It includes my talks with > people from different worlds. More-Than-One-World Secrets. This connection > I can try to create also among OSM folks (societies). > > Best regards > > Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose > From: Paul Allen > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > CC: > > > > > On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 17:06, Valor Naram <valin...@gmx.net> wrote: > >> >> In my opinion this is a topic we should consider working on and creating >> a wikipage to describe the "defragemtation" process in general. >> > > Doing so is probably not going to achieve much. First we need to > defragment OSM itself. > It doesn't matter what wonderful tags we come up with here, if carto > refuses to render them > then they won't get used. It doesn't matter what wonderful tags we come > up with here, if editors > don't implement them as presets they won't get used. > > Carto won't (in general) render a tag unless it's widely used. Editors > won't (in general) > implement tags in presets unless they're widely used. Unless editors and > carto support > tags, they won't get widely used, so editors and carto won't support > them. Chicken and egg. > > There are complications (of course). Carto (in general) refuses to > implement aliases, so > whatever the merits of deprecating landuse=grass in favour of > landcover=grass, carto will > refuse to render landcover=grass. Editors don't (in general) like > implementing aliases > either. So however much we wish to try to fix bad tags, which are > frequently misused > because the name or value was a bad choice, it probably won't happen. > Some editors > occasionally decide they'll ignore the list, the wiki, and carto, and go > their own way > (sometimes they get their way and sometimes they get a slap on the wrist). > > So what we need at this stage is not a defragmentation process but > joined-up thinking > between the various groups. I'm not holding my breath on that one. > > -- > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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