I've seen cages that are also bike shops, so whatever tagging solution we
up with should work with any type of shop.
Leif Rasmussen

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 9:38 PM Morten Lange via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wonder how I should tag bicycle shops that are not shops in the
> traditional "buy our products" sense.
>
> A community-centre that is also offers bicycle repairs / is a bicycle
> repair shop.
> Or a bicycle "shop"  that primarily focuses on refurbishing disused bikes.
> Or a community-centre or similar that provides job training for various
> groups, and such training happens through running a bicycle repair service
> for the public.
>
>
> I have found a few such bicycle repair and maintenance "shops" on OSM.
> These are the searches I have used in overpass-turbo.eu:
>
> (shop=bicycle or service:bicycle:repair=yes)  and
> ownership=private_nonprofit
> or
> community_centre=bicycle_maintenance
> or
> service:bicycle:repair=yes  and amenity=community_centre
>
>
> Many of those that I described, to my eperience do not offer
> Do-it-yourself (more on DIY  below).
> They still are something else than your "ordinary"  bikeshop, and I think
> that is significant to reflect in tagging.
> So I wonder how best to tag those.  My experience is that most of them are
> non-profit.
>
>
> My preliminary conclusion is to use this on the nodes I have mapped in
> Oslo and elsewhere in Norway:
>       shop=bicycle
>       service:bicycle:repair=yes
>       ownership=private_nonprofit      (or ownership=public_nonprofit)
>
>
>
> Some additinional thoughts :
>
> A.
> If the place is a Do-it-yourself shop it should be tagged as such.
> Searching for this tag and value I see the pair has been used quite a lot.
> For example for bicycle kitchens.
>      service:bicycle:dyi=yes.
>
> B.
> Tagging primarily as a community centre?
>
> Some might suggest to use amenity=community_centre combined with
>       community_centre=bicycle_maintenance
>
> But then the community centre feature will overshadow the bikeshop aspect.
> (And in current renderings the place would not pop up as a place where you
> can fix your bicycle/tricycle)
> I would like to have it the other way around, that is to emphasise the
> service offered to the public, rather than type of establishment.
>
> Is it OK to use
>        community_centre=bicycle_maintenance
> together with
>       shop=bicycle ?
>
>
>
>
>
> Any other comments?
> Could a single "freshly invented" value do the trick like
>       service:bicycle:repair=work_training
> The downside is that if searching for the value =yes, those
> nodes/ways/relations are not found.
>
>
> Regards / KveĆ°ja / Hilsen
> Morten Lange
>
>
> P.S
>
> Bicycle kitchens and bicycle librarier are somewhat different animals.
>
> Searching the web for bicycle kitchen, bicycle library etc turns up quite
> a few references.
>
> But I could not find them on OSM.
> That is until I specifically searched in overpass-turbo for
>
>     shop=bicycle and service:bicycle:diy=yes
>
> Rome, Paris and Berlin are virtually peppered.
>
>
> And for the case of the bicycle library .....
> Would this be a possibe way to tag them
>       service:bicycle:rental=library
> ?
>
> --
> Morten Lange, Oslo
>
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