I've seen cages that are also bike shops, so whatever tagging solution we up with should work with any type of shop. Leif Rasmussen
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 9:38 PM Morten Lange via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder how I should tag bicycle shops that are not shops in the > traditional "buy our products" sense. > > A community-centre that is also offers bicycle repairs / is a bicycle > repair shop. > Or a bicycle "shop" that primarily focuses on refurbishing disused bikes. > Or a community-centre or similar that provides job training for various > groups, and such training happens through running a bicycle repair service > for the public. > > > I have found a few such bicycle repair and maintenance "shops" on OSM. > These are the searches I have used in overpass-turbo.eu: > > (shop=bicycle or service:bicycle:repair=yes) and > ownership=private_nonprofit > or > community_centre=bicycle_maintenance > or > service:bicycle:repair=yes and amenity=community_centre > > > Many of those that I described, to my eperience do not offer > Do-it-yourself (more on DIY below). > They still are something else than your "ordinary" bikeshop, and I think > that is significant to reflect in tagging. > So I wonder how best to tag those. My experience is that most of them are > non-profit. > > > My preliminary conclusion is to use this on the nodes I have mapped in > Oslo and elsewhere in Norway: > shop=bicycle > service:bicycle:repair=yes > ownership=private_nonprofit (or ownership=public_nonprofit) > > > > Some additinional thoughts : > > A. > If the place is a Do-it-yourself shop it should be tagged as such. > Searching for this tag and value I see the pair has been used quite a lot. > For example for bicycle kitchens. > service:bicycle:dyi=yes. > > B. > Tagging primarily as a community centre? > > Some might suggest to use amenity=community_centre combined with > community_centre=bicycle_maintenance > > But then the community centre feature will overshadow the bikeshop aspect. > (And in current renderings the place would not pop up as a place where you > can fix your bicycle/tricycle) > I would like to have it the other way around, that is to emphasise the > service offered to the public, rather than type of establishment. > > Is it OK to use > community_centre=bicycle_maintenance > together with > shop=bicycle ? > > > > > > Any other comments? > Could a single "freshly invented" value do the trick like > service:bicycle:repair=work_training > The downside is that if searching for the value =yes, those > nodes/ways/relations are not found. > > > Regards / KveĆ°ja / Hilsen > Morten Lange > > > P.S > > Bicycle kitchens and bicycle librarier are somewhat different animals. > > Searching the web for bicycle kitchen, bicycle library etc turns up quite > a few references. > > But I could not find them on OSM. > That is until I specifically searched in overpass-turbo for > > shop=bicycle and service:bicycle:diy=yes > > Rome, Paris and Berlin are virtually peppered. > > > And for the case of the bicycle library ..... > Would this be a possibe way to tag them > service:bicycle:rental=library > ? > > -- > Morten Lange, Oslo > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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