Another user added bring_own_bbq=yes as a suggestion on the amenity=bbq page
But, getting back to the original question, which I need answered for my draft proposal Proposed_features/Campsite_properties: Should we use bbq=yes or barbecue_grill=yes with campsites, caravan sites and camp pitches to specify the presence of a grill that can be used for bbq / grilling? On 7/6/19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/07/19 02:28, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: >> On 7/5/2019 10:56 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: >>> I don't think it would be necessary to combine "bbq=no" and >>> "bring_own_bbq=yes" - if a feature such as a leisure=picnic_site is >>> tagged "bring_own_bbq=yes" that is sufficient. The tag "bbq=no", like >>> most tags with value "no", can be omitted. >> >> This is true. A better phrasing of the problem would be bbq=yes combined >> with bring_own_bbq=yes. Does bbq=yes imply static bbq equipment, or just >> permission to bbq that's further refined by the bring_own_bbq=yes tag? > > To me > > bbq=yes means there is a physical bbq there and I can use it. To have a > physical presence and not being able to use it is foolish. > > bbq=no means I cannot bbq here, I don't think have never used it. > > If there s a need to specify the bbq is permitted but you have to bring > your own (BYO is a common abbreviation here) then a new value? > bbq=bring_your_own??? > > >> >> In my mind, the *only* reason bbq=yes would mean the presence of a grill >> is by echoing the amenity=atm/atm=yes pattern. But I don't think that >> pattern works particularly well in this case. And as you pointed out in >> your translation of the German wiki page, even amenity=bbq is already >> used both ways, for equipment and permission: "One distinguishes between >> free barbecue areas, where you have to take care of the grill yourself >> and fixed barbecue areas with existing grill..." -- but there's no >> indicating of *how* one distinguishes between the two. Obviously at one >> point we didn't care to tag the difference, but now that we do, I don't >> see any clear way of tagging all three possibilities >> (grill/byo-grill/both) using the current tags. > > bbq:cooking_surface=grill/plate/* ?? > where plate is a continuous surface for cooking on, like a fixed pan, > these usually drain to some point for cleaning. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
