On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:20 AM Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org> wrote: > Isn't this a case of using the wrong t̶o̶o̶l̶ community for the task? > The mailing list are for discussion. We have help.openstreetmap.org for > Q&A, and the wiki for documentation. "The ML makes a poor documentation" > well yes of course it does? > > Did someone point you to the tagging ML to answer beginner questions? I > agree that's not a good suggestion.
We've already identified resource discoverability as an issue. I was a beginner, and we don't really make it easy for a beginner to find out whom to ask. "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" seemed a place where such a question would be on topic. I already mentioned that I'd read the Wiki. I also have extensive prior experience in how Wikis work, so also read the talk page and consulted Overpass to get a feel for whether the Wiki article reflected actual practice. From the contentious talk page and the fact that I found no examples in about a 100-km radius of where I was mapping, I arrived at the wrong conclusion about the acceptance of the tag. In any case, I think the experience that the tagging ML was the wrong tool for that job is a key observation. The presents and tagging recommendations in iD are essentially the aggregation of answers to a great many beginner questions - it is, after all, supposed to be an entry-level tool. Just as that single question didn't elicit a relevant answer, a large number of similar questions, in the aggregate, are likely not to get relevant answers. Just as the tagging ML is unfit for the purpose of answering a single beginner question, it's unfit for the broader purpose of answering many such questions _en masse._ It doesn't have to be characterized as 'toxic' or 'hostile,' simply 'irrelevant to the task at hand.' iD's recommendations should reflect broadly accepted current practice, and this mailing list is not a good place to discover what that is. _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
