On Sat, 2019-05-11 at 19:09 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 18:53, Mateusz Konieczny < > matkoni...@tutanota.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The question is whatever it requires separate proposal to fix old > > proposal or is invoking > > general rule "name tag is for name, description tag is for > > description" sufficient. > > > > Sometimes, and not just for bus routes, the name and the description > are identical. > > Not far from me is a house that is painted red. Its name is Ty Coch > (in less sloppy > orthography it would be Tŷ Coch, but it's lost the accent over > time). The name has long > been Ty Coch. It's Welsh for "Red House." There are a LOT of house > names around here > that, if they weren't in Welsh, some mapper checking my work would > think I'd entered the > description rather than the name. I recently mapped an events venue > in a converted > farm building that calls itself "The Shed" because it's in a large > shed. And mapped the > building used as a play area for a campsite as "The Barn" because > that's what the operators > have named it, it just happens to be in what is a Dutch barn. There > are a lot of buildings > that used to be mills which have names like "White Mill," "Red Mill," > "Garnon's Mill," Etc. > > Be careful not to insist that something cannot be the name of a thing > because it also > happens to be a description of that thing. People are lazy and have > limited imaginations: > sometimes the description is used as the name.
Not necessarily lazy, but names come from before the time of mass literacy. Back in time you would have said you live at Tŷ Coch and someone who could not read would find your house. The same with pub name, they are often descriptions of the picture, hence we still have names such as The White Lion, The Dog and Pheasant or Y Llew Coch. Phil (trigpoint)
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