I second Joseph's comment -- the proposal has to be very short for people to review it - e.g. less than a page, with a clear usage examples -- take a few well known ones like Crimea and Kashmir, and just list all features (ways/relations) and their tags. (actually most people don't read beyond the first paragraph... on the rare days when we read beyond the subject line ;))
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:57 PM Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > I thought the proposal was too complicated. This made it difficult to > review, so I was reluctant to vite. I believe a simpler, more approachabke > proposal would have a higher chance of success. > > I’d recommend reading all of the objections and trying again with a much > simpler version. > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:34 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 04:22, Johnparis <ok...@johnfreed.com> wrote: >> >>> What surprised me, however, was the general lack of interest. I had >>> thought this was a hot button issue, what with dozens of people registering >>> with OSM, the big kerfuffle about Crimea, etc. If only 33 people are >>> interested in this topic, it seems useless for me to continue to try to >>> refine the proposal. >>> >> >> John, I'm sorry your proposal didn't make it, as it seemed like quite a >> reasonable idea. >> >> I've noticed this before & wonder about the numbers, or lack of them? >> >> Yes there's supposed to be ~750000 mappers on OSM. >> >> I don't know how many subscribe to the Tagging list (I'm sure someone can >> tell us?) but for Feb 2019 >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-February/author.html, >> there were posts by only 86 users, 20 of whom made only 1 post, while 37 >> made more than 5. >> >> Back to Nov 2018 when your proposal was raised >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-November/author.html >> & those numbers become 76 total posters, 19 with 1 post, & 32 at +5, so >> virtually identical. >> >> Of those 76 active on the list in Nov, 16 people commented on your >> proposal. When it came to the vote, 33 people voted, but only 2 of them had >> made comments on the list, but, strangely enough, only 2 people who >> commented then voted! >> >> Please note that I am in no way criticising people for not contributing >> to the list - I'm just pointing out that decisions that potentially effect >> 750000 mappers are seemingly being made by a mere handful of people, a lot >> of whom apparently aren't talking to anybody about the suggestion? >> >> I have no idea how we could improve things so there is more feedback - >> maybe remove the discussion page from the proposals, so all discussion has >> to happen on the tagging list? >> >> Thanks >> >> Graeme >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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