I thought the proposal was too complicated. This made it difficult to
review, so I was reluctant to vite. I believe a simpler, more approachabke
proposal would have a higher chance of success.

I’d recommend reading all of the objections and trying again with a much
simpler version.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:34 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 04:22, Johnparis <ok...@johnfreed.com> wrote:
>
>> What surprised me, however, was the general lack of interest. I had
>> thought this was a hot button issue, what with dozens of people registering
>> with OSM, the big kerfuffle about Crimea, etc. If only 33 people are
>> interested in this topic, it seems useless for me to continue to try to
>> refine the proposal.
>>
>
> John, I'm sorry your proposal didn't make it, as it seemed like quite a
> reasonable idea.
>
> I've noticed this before & wonder about the numbers, or lack of them?
>
> Yes there's supposed to be ~750000 mappers on OSM.
>
> I don't know how many subscribe to the Tagging list (I'm sure someone can
> tell us?) but for Feb 2019
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-February/author.html,
> there were posts by only 86 users, 20 of whom made only 1 post, while 37
> made more than 5.
>
> Back to Nov 2018 when your proposal was raised
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-November/author.html
> & those numbers become 76 total posters, 19 with 1 post, & 32 at +5, so
> virtually identical.
>
> Of those 76 active on the list in Nov, 16 people commented on your
> proposal. When it came to the vote, 33 people voted, but only 2 of them had
> made comments on the list, but, strangely enough, only 2 people who
> commented then voted!
>
> Please note that I am in no way criticising people for not contributing to
> the list - I'm just pointing out that decisions that potentially effect
> 750000 mappers are seemingly being made by a mere handful of people, a lot
> of whom apparently aren't talking to anybody about the suggestion?
>
> I have no idea how we could improve things so there is more feedback -
> maybe remove the discussion page from the proposals, so all discussion has
> to happen on the tagging list?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
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