Do note that fire hydrant plates depict opening direction, so if we
would need to store direction to close, a mapper would yet again need
to do mental work, that is not error prone and confusing.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:31 AM François Lacombe
<fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The question about the opening direction should be propagated to this draft 
> proposal regarding pipeline valves
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal
>
> I thought about turn_to_close=clockwise / anticlockwise
> Whatever the final answer will be, this definitely have to be the same key 
> and values on both fire hydrants and any kind of pipeline valves.
>
> The proposal can change at anytime until RFC.
> All the best
>
> François
>
> Le mar. 9 oct. 2018 à 23:13, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:34 PM Viking <vikin...@tin.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> As we did for most of the tags in [0], I would not use fire_hydrant: prefix 
>>> because we want a slim
>>>
>>> database and because  opening:direction=* is (or can be) used for other 
>>> objects, as doors, taps, etc.
>>
>>
>> There are differing viewpoints on this.
>>
>> 1) Minimize database keys by applying them as widely as possible.  So 
>> opening:direction applies to
>> doors, taps, fire hydrants, etc.  Database designers might think this way, 
>> as might most ordinary
>> mappers and most programmers.
>>
>> 2) Don't re-use keys in this way because you end up with different sets of 
>> values that apply in
>> different situations.  People who program map editors tend to think this 
>> way.  Each time you use
>> opening:direction for a different type of object the programmer has to 
>> special-case the set of possible
>> values based on the associated values in order to populate drop-downs.  If 
>> you're mapping a
>> tap you want the choice of opening:direction to be limited to clockwise and 
>> counterclockwise and
>> not be confused by also seeing inwards and outwards; but for doors you want 
>> inwards and outwards
>> but not clockwise and counterclockwise (unless it's a rotating door).
>>
>> I can see merits in both viewpoints.  The people who write map editors tend 
>> to win these arguments
>> because most mappers choose from what the editor presents to them. :)
>>
>> --
>> Paul
>>
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