Yeah, saw that exchange before but missed the last ugly part. Mexican standoff? Deadlock? Hm, let's call it an impasse.
I'll think about it. 2018-06-06 13:02 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>: > Just look at the issues related to landcover for carto-css on github, > e.g. https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2548 > > * not rendered elsewhere > * not enough instances > * what's the difference with landuse > > are some of the arguments I've seen. > > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > This issue has a long history... seems to me tagging awaits rendering, > and > > rendering awaits tagging. In such cases, you need a commitment from both > > sides, with enough support to fuel trust. Then things can get rolling. > > > > I am pretty sure about the tagging side - the problem is recognized, > there > > are ideas, and I think a solution can be found whether over left or over > > right. I am not sure about the rendering side. There's no use in tagging > a > > lot then throw it at the renderers and hearing: nice try, can't be done, > or: > > fine, we'll see if someone picks it up next century. Ok, exaggerated, but > > wouldn't it be better to engage earlier and get a commitment and lay out > a > > road map? > > > > 2018-06-06 11:58 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> > >> > >> sent from a phone > >> > >> On 5. Jun 2018, at 10:02, Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> E.g. replace landuse=village_green with landuse=decorative (defaut > >> rendering=greenish) then add landcover=scrub|trees|bushes|sand|gravel > as > >> needed. > >> > >> > >> “decorative” is not a good name, if the intention is mapping only > >> greenery. I would add a component or use a wording which makes it more > >> specific, e.g. “greenery” or “verdure” or maybe “decorative_planting”? > >> > >> If this was intended for all kind of decorative installations, maybe > >> landuse=street_decoration? Although I would see these generally as > elements > >> (e.g. amenity or man_made) within a landuse like “highway”. > >> > >> If rendering of these landcover values could be foreseen in the near > >> future, retagging can be expected and a lot of fake orchards, > mini-forests > >> and fak village_greens would disappear from Nederland. > >> > >> > >> > >> If you want to see the landcover tag rendered, one of the most important > >> things to do is use it wherever it can apply. > >> > >> > >> cheers, > >> Martin > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Vr gr Peter Elderson > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Vr gr Peter Elderson
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