2017-11-20 11:04 GMT+01:00 Erkin Alp Güney <erkinalp9...@gmail.com>:
> > > What about dance / music (singing / instruments, ...) / schools? > > Academies? Conservatories? Professional schools? > education=specialty > I'm not convinced. Why is there an education=driving or administrative, but an academy of fine arts (similar to a university) or conservatory (might be similar to a university) go into the same category as a dance school (could be several levels, from the hobbyist leisure dance school to professional preparation) or the music school kids go 1 time a week? This seems complete arbitrary. IMHO a good proposal should not need a "catch-all" tag for the rest (i.e. what wasn't thought of earlier) which basically shifts meaningful tagging into a subtag. If we already undertake the step to create a new top level key just for education, all cases should fit into the same scheme (i.e. if there is education=driving, there should also be education=dancing or education=gliding, but this would mean "education" is about the topic, and not about the level which would be implied by terms like "university" or "graduate" or "vocational"). It should be clear, what the meaning of the "education" tags is (kind of classification/criterion). Level of education? Field of studies? Then there should be subtags with distinct meaning that cater each for a property (which must be isolated/defined). I would also expect suggestions for several more details that aren't covered yet, e.g. male, female / both-(etc.), mixed age classes or not or maybe even both (e.g. relevant for kindergarten), etc. What about the kind of specialization for general-education (e.g. classical education (latin and greek), scientific, artistic, etc.)? There's not much about a rationale, e.g. what do you consider "all educational facilities/institutions" and based on which criterion? E.g. what about a shooting club, aren't people going there to learn how to safely handle a gun, and how to use it / improve their ability? Similar things can be said about a lot of clubs / associations. When does it fall under "education"? This ambiguity together with instances like "university" (not just education) are the reason it could be generally worth to question a restructuring under a new "education" key according to this criterion. > > Subtags how to tag the specialization (if any), about the degress you > > can get, institutes and faculties, etc.). > These tags already exist. Institutes and faculties are now covered in > "how to tag universities and mixed campuses" section of the proposal. it may be my cultural background, but I would not use the term "school" for parts of a university. The new relation type=institution remains mysterious, there are 7 instances of it in the db, but no documentation whatsoever. Is this a kind of "collection"? Can't we use a standard relation like "multipolygon" or "site" (ok, there's the common problem with universities that they have many different locations, often even single faculties have different locations, and it would be desirable to have a method to connect e.g. 2 site relations to one entity, I think sometimes we are doing this with operator and name tags, but it is not very reliable or consistent, something should indeed be introduced). Is "institution" only used for educational features? It would probably merit a whole new proposal. If college is "obsolete", does this mean colleges should be tagged as universities? What about police schools, or military schools? Are those handled with a "military" (e.g.) property on a university or vocational school element, or are they new main values? Cheers, Martin
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