Javbw
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Tobias Wrede <l...@tobias-wrede.de> wrote:
>
> operator or brand
This is about scope, not brand or operator.
If I search for a supermarket and you send me to a 7-11, you failed.
Post offices have different scopes in different places, ways we usually
separate by tag, because we separate "duckiness" by tag. This varies by region,
so we need a way to represent both, and we have existing tags as well.
If it were me, national post, (inter)national delivery, and local-regional
currier would be three different things. You go to different ones for different
reasons. What about freight? People who ship crated engines around are none of
the three above (AFAIK). They are freight services. Shipping a 300lb
transmission across California doesn't use any service provider any of us have
heard of before. So because they "deliver" stuff - is all freight also a
courier too? Armored trucks? 3rd party food delivery? What about bulk goods?
They "deliver" 500 tons of wheat via a bulk carrier - why are they different? A
tanker of crude oil or a ship full of cars? This is not something left to
"operator". Brand is for separating similar items - a Burger King vs a
McDonalds - not to separate steakhouses from a butcher shop. We are deciding
where to draw the lines on scope, like convenience stores, markets,
supermarkets, and malls.
The sticky point seems to be that because nationalized post services and
commercial courier services are available in different places *beyond* the
traditional offices - buying stamps at a gas station, box shops that ship via
post and courier systems, etc, that the "amenity" of a location that offers
post/courier service is blurred in many places, or the post''s importance in
some places has dwindled, relegating it to be a courier. We should be figuring
out how to handle assigning the "amenity" of those services (similar to how a
hotel has a workout room, but that doesn't make the hotel a gym) to other kinds
of businesses, in a way where we can have multiple values. A hotel has parking,
a pool, gym, etc, but it is foremost a "hotel" with various amenities. Having a
dedicated courier or post office tag isn't so much of an issue - in many places
with a traditional post system, it is still different enough to warrant
separate tags. it's adding these courier/post options to other businesses or
shops that needs to be worked out. Mashing post offices and courier services
together is not going to solve that issue nor improve OSM tagging in any
appreciable way.
As an example, when I renew my visa, I have to purchase a 4000yen revenue stamp
to affix to my paperwork. I can purchase that stamp at a post office. But when
paying for regional services, I have to buy regional revenue stamps at very
certain convenience stores.
Of course one can buy stamps at a post office - but where are one of the few
convenience stores that also sells special revenue stamps? It's pretty rare.
Which are shipping points for which couriers? Each company offered different
ones.
Having a tagging system to add that onto another shop sounds like that is what
people are looking for, if I understand correctly.
Javbw.
_______________________________________________
Tagging mailing list
Tagging@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
