On 08/11/2016 14:09, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
On 08.11.2016 14:35, Dave F wrote:
On 08/11/2016 11:07, Daniel Hofmann wrote:
In the second example "Skalitzer Straße" has right of way.
... Reichenberger Straße appears to be mapped incorrectly as
No.
it joins directly into Kottbusser Tor
That's what it does in reality. And it's oneway, so you can only leave
the circle, not join.
I think you're looking at the wrong bit:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/172425897
http://tinyurl.com/otmaque (StreetView)
Where is this path on GSV? (note it's directly at the bottom of the
steps on OSM): http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/386659492
Where is this path on OSM? It appears to be missing:
http://tinyurl.com/oj9shyp
& the pedestrian crossing is
nearer Kottbusser Tor (note the crossing & path are to the West of the
steps up to the railway station.
Access to the U-Bahn (which is above the street here) is via a
pedestrian tunnel, so the steps outside the circle are going _down_ to
-1.
These are the steps I'm talking about. going from from Ground level up
to Level 1
http://tinyurl.com/oodmyat
The lights at that crossing also appear to control vehicle access onto
Kottbusser Tor.
The lights are not all mapped. there are light when entering the
circle, and lights in the circle.
Will do a full mapillary round next time in the area to get it completed.
Does Skalitzer Straße have lights controlling traffic onto Kottbusser
Tor as per this view: http://tinyurl.com/ool33xg?
Caveat: I'm using streetview so the images could be out of date.
Which streetview, there are plenty?
Start using mapillary, and there is 2016 aerial coverage for Berlin in
the town's osm-compliant geoportal. ;-)
Do you mean Mapbox? It's a bit blurred. The photos appear to show the
same as Google Streetview
If the lights were removed (or temporarily failed) drivers wouldn't
think they have right access on entering the Tor or suddenly start
driving clockwise around it. They'd treat it like a roundabout because
it is a roundabout.
No, each light has either a give-way or main-street sign attached,
they make the regulation unambiguous when they are off.
But from what I understand you want a tag saying it's not a roundabout
so you can route it as if it was a roundabout.
Effectively Daniel proposes a tag for a circular junction that is not
formally a roundabout by OSM definition. Then, every data consumer can
do with it what she wants, whether we like it here or not. As this is
the tagging list, I am in favour of such a tag, as long as it is a
positive description.
tom
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