On 08.11.2016 14:35, Dave F wrote:
On 08/11/2016 11:07, Daniel Hofmann wrote:
In the second example "Skalitzer Straße" has right of way.
... Reichenberger Straße appears to be mapped incorrectly as
No.
it joins directly into Kottbusser Tor
That's what it does in reality. And it's oneway, so you can only leave
the circle, not join.
& the pedestrian crossing is
nearer Kottbusser Tor (note the crossing & path are to the West of the
steps up to the railway station.
Access to the U-Bahn (which is above the street here) is via a
pedestrian tunnel, so the steps outside the circle are going _down_ to -1.
The lights at that crossing also appear to control vehicle access onto
Kottbusser Tor.
The lights are not all mapped. there are light when entering the circle,
and lights in the circle.
Will do a full mapillary round next time in the area to get it completed.
Caveat: I'm using streetview so the images could be out of date.
Which streetview, there are plenty?
Start using mapillary, and there is 2016 aerial coverage for Berlin in
the town's osm-compliant geoportal. ;-)
If the lights were removed (or temporarily failed) drivers wouldn't
think they have right access on entering the Tor or suddenly start
driving clockwise around it. They'd treat it like a roundabout because
it is a roundabout.
No, each light has either a give-way or main-street sign attached, they
make the regulation unambiguous when they are off.
But from what I understand you want a tag saying it's not a roundabout
so you can route it as if it was a roundabout.
Effectively Daniel proposes a tag for a circular junction that is not
formally a roundabout by OSM definition. Then, every data consumer can
do with it what she wants, whether we like it here or not. As this is
the tagging list, I am in favour of such a tag, as long as it is a
positive description.
tom
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