On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> @Colin - I see it now in Wiktionary, but since it is not in the OSM Wiki
>> how would renderers show or use that information? I guess my point is that
>> the relation manager and tools are difficult to master and forcing their
>> use on the general mapping community would be a mistake. Even if
>> deprecating the ref tag was deemed okay by our little group, the general
>> user community will resist the change and rightly so IMO
>>
>
> You're blaming the community for a software issue here, and that's a
> little unfair to the community.  If iD or potlatch or whatever are that
> broken, then fucking fix iD and Potlatch.  There's zero reason relations
> should be harder to use than nodes and ways.  If it is, then the software
> is Doing It Wrong.
>

Sorry for going all Linus Torvalds there, but seriously, the tools
shouldn't be a barrier to moving things to a more consistent level of
maintainability.
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