Am 24. Juli 2015 um 17:50 schrieb Heiko Eckenreiter [mailto:[email protected]] : >Am 24.07.2015 um 17:24 schrieb Hubert: >> But only the way with the traffic sign will be tagged with >> bicycle=designated, foot=designated using the definition in the >> description box >> >> That is not logical, because both ways are still equally designated to >> pedestrians and cyclist in both situations. > >Today in OSM it's documented, only the ways signposted with a traffic >sign should be tagged with *=designated (as described on the cited page >access=designated and much more).
The only wiki page with such a strict formulation I could find is the "highway=footway" page [1] : "highway=footway is used for signposted paths designated for pedestrians only. Signposted footpaths are primarily common in residential areas, but may also exist out-of-town in recreational environments, parks etc.. ". But in this context one must agree that highway=footway is equal to "highway=path, foot=designated". Also this was only changed recently by Geow on June 28th. Bevor that it read : "highway=footway is mainly used for residential paths designated for pedestrians only." And till Feb 18th :" The tag highway=footway is used for mapping minor pathways which are used mainly or exclusively by pedestrians." Which is the definition I prefer. Other wiki pages don't use a strict formulation, but are using words like "often" or "typically" to relativize the definition. [2] access page: "A preferred or designated route for a specific vehicle type or types, often marked by a traffic sign." [3] bicycle page : "Where a way has been specially designated (typically by a government) for bicycle use" [4] "access=designated" page : "Typically it is used on ways legally dedicated to specific modes of travel by a law or by the rules of traffic." >Now you'd like to apply the tag *=designated also to ways which are >constructional intended for the specific traffic but without a traffic >sign, right? > >I object this due to the reasons: >- this is changing an existing tag definition, it's not downwardly >compatible (designated would then no longer mean "signposted") >- it will therefore lose the possibility to distinguish between ways what >are signposted and that what are not. Using "designated" for "signposted" ways only is IMO a very bad choice, since it is in contrast to the lingual meaning of the word "designated". [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=footway [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle [4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
