On 25.01.2015 23:30, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > On 1/26/15, Lukas Sommer <sommer...@gmail.com> wrote: >> And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the >> documentation. Things like >> – use always (or use never) “Saint”: “Saint Paul” vs “Paul”.
That's a good point. In German, there are name variations for many saints, e.g. Nepomuk = Johannes Nepomuk. There are name variations even for the word "saint": "Sankt", "St.", "Heiliger", "Hl.", none. But AFAIK the official dedication for a given church is always a fixed version of the name. Of course that breaks comparability. >> – write the name of the dedication always in the local language (Or >> always in latin? Could become very complicate ;-) It's the same as with species=*, plant_community=* etc. The values of theses tags are latin, too. Mappers get used to them quickly. Names in other languages can be given as species:en=*etc., although the benefit of these translations remains unclear. If we use the local language for the value of dedication=*, it's like name=*. Again there's name:en etc. So we may think about dedication:<language>=* in any case, but I'm not sure about the language of dedication=* itself. >> The clearer these things are defined from the very beginning, the more >> useful will the tag be. > > If you are going to use the local language in this tag, then the sort > of GIS queries suggested (most popular saint in a region, etc.) would > not be possible. In addition, do you tag "Paul" or "Paul the Apostle" > or "Simon Peter"? Do you tag "Joan" or "Joan of Arc"? > > If this tag is to be useful (assuming it is the sort of thing OSM > should record), maybe using Wikidata should be considered through an > additional tag such as dedication:wikidata=Q33923 for Saint Peter > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33923> I dislike these numbers. They are not human readable, and typos will not be noticed. Can we find out how many distinct dedications do exist? Maybe we can create a list and then visualize it and get inspiration. That list can subsequently be used for the dedication=* wiki page. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
