On 2015-01-25 17:29, Friedrich Volkmann wrote :
> Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated
> to patron saints.
> E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is
> obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter). As in this example, the
> patron saint is often part of the common name of a church. But this example
> also shows that an automated extraction is almost impossible.
>
> There are also many churches whose common names do not include the patron
> saint at all. E.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/30344133 is usually
> called "Bergkirche" or "Haydnkirche", but the patron saint is "Maria
> Heimsuchung". Well, I don't know if a saint named "Maria Heimsuchung" really
> existed, but the church is dedicated to her, so it's a patron saint at least
> in an abstract sense.
>
> There has been no tagging rules so far. Some churches have
> name=<common_name> + alt_name=<patron>, some have it the opposite way, some
> have the patron or the common name omitted.
>
> I'd like to suggest a new key for patron saints. Certainly patron_saint=* or
> just patron=*. There are some occurrences in Taginfo, although most values
> of patron=* do not look like saints.
>
> holy_name=* has also been suggested, but this sounds to me as if the name
> were holy. It's actually the saint who is holy.
>
> patronage=* may be ambiguous.
>
> patrociny=* seems to be an extinct word.
>
> What do you think?
I think that, when they have a name=* tag (when the mapper cared to find
it, easy, they're all here (unités pastorales)
<http://liege.diocese.be/>), almost all churches around here are tagged
with the dedication. I wonder why no one imported them already (I
recommended the clergy to list a street address so that believers knew
where to go;-) ).
So, someone volunteering to change all that to another tag and only when
it's a dedication would have a terrible job on his hand.
If I came across a case like yours (usual name definitely not the
dedication) I would simply use
name=Haydnkirche Heilige Maria Heimsuchung
or use alt_name=Heilige ...
There's no need to have as many variations of alt_name as the sorts of
names that can be.

André.






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