Am 11.06.2014 13:44, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > 2014-06-10 22:34 GMT+02:00 fly <lowfligh...@googlemail.com > Am 10.06.2014 21:51, schrieb Michael Maier: > > So I created a Proposal Page for the values of the 'door' key: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/door > > > > RFC phase is now open! > > I would not say that entrance=* implies door=yes. Did not find a word > about it on the wiki page. Please, just leave them as to separate tags. > > +1 > > I do not think that door=no is needed but that is only a minor issue. > > +1 > > Myself does use barrier=door together with entrance=* though it is not > documented either. > > +1, although it is not completely clear when to use barrier=door and > when barrier=gate (at least not for me).
Yes, there is need of a clear separation. For me: * doors are always in connection with buildings * doors are often smaller, e.g. as soon as a normal car is allowed/fits throught, I call it a gate. * > There is also > barrier=full_height_turnstile etc. which might have some overlap here. > > I'd also like to point out that there are already ~6000 "door"s in our > db (taginfo): > yes <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=yes> > > 5 562 > 81.54% > > - > > hinged <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=hinged> > > 582 > 8.53% > > - > > manual <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=manual> > > 378 > 5.54% > > - > > automatic <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=automatic> > > 87 > 1.28% > > - > > hangable <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=hangable> > > 83 > 1.22% > > - > > opening <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=opening> > > 49 > 0.72% > > - > > if you forget about the "yes" there are quite a lot of "manual" and > "automatic". > My suggestion therefor is to be more explicit with the key identifiers, e.g. > * door_type (or door:type) for hinged / sliding / revolving / ... +1 for door_type as it is much easier to start with a new tag compared to changing an existing one. > (still this is somehow ambiguous, because "type" might also be > interpreted as "glass door", "wooden door", ...) thought this would go under material or door:material > I believe there could be also "lift_gate" (de: Hubtür) and > "rolling_gate" (de: Rolltor) as suggested values. lift_gate (de: Schranke) [1] and rolling_gate are gates not doors. Do not know about rolling_door. --- I had a closer look at automatic_door=* which is by far an established tag. It was introduced without proposal and shows only small numbers of use. > * door_closer = * (for mechanisms that close the door automatically, > values might be e.g. "electric", "mechanic", "no", "yes" etc.) > > With respect to door_closer I'd also suggest to be more explicit with > "automatic_door" (what is automatic: opening, closing, both? And how is > the automation implemented). Not sure if an alternative key > "door_opener" would be suitable for this (but it surely would be a good > complement to door_closer). Be carful, doors can be looked, too. You are talking about the operation modes and not the locking system, I guess. Cheers fly [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier=lift_gate _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
